Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:31:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

I recall Randy Paul talking about why he believed restaurant owners and
others in that sort of biz should be able to discriminate as they wish.

In case you forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92M3mSKbwR4

The Pauls, father and son, are the most prominent loonytarians. And Ron
Paul had his name attached to some brochures that were blatantly
anti-Semitic.

Have nice day.

I understand Ron Paul does not support the West Bank settlements and
other Israeli apartheid activities but I am not sure I have heard him
say bad things about Jews in general.

You do not have to go very far back to find plenty of prominent
democrats who were anti semites. Certainly within my lifetime.
Truman was notoriously anti semitic, racist and an all around asshole.



The State of Israel would not have existed with its recognition by the
Truman Administration.


By the time Truman / US government recognized Israel, was defacto
recognized by Europe. I have hint it was just a recognition of what was in
place.

On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 12:45:48 -0500, Califbill
wrote:


By the time Truman / US government recognized Israel, was defacto
recognized by Europe. I have hint it was just a recognition of what was in
place.

The anti semites in Europe saw it as doing what they wanted to do when
the nazis were coming into power, get rid of the jews.
Nobody in Europe believed the arabs had any rights at all. They had
been colonizing Africa for centuries and this was just another colony
in their mind. The only ones who objected were the Brits because
Palestine was their colony. They were losing their other colonies and
this one was not really that important economically so they let it go.

I still think the right thing would have been to take land from the
Germans and let the jews set up their state there. Unfortunately, the
war may not have actually ended if we did that. In that regard, we may
have defeated Hitler but we did not defeat his core policy. None of
the nazis had to give back the stuff they stole from the jews. That
was true of the Swiss too. The restitution that should have paid by
the Germans fell on the Palestinians.

On 7/6/16 1:45 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:31:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

I recall Randy Paul talking about why he believed restaurant owners and
others in that sort of biz should be able to discriminate as they wish.

In case you forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92M3mSKbwR4

The Pauls, father and son, are the most prominent loonytarians. And Ron
Paul had his name attached to some brochures that were blatantly
anti-Semitic.

Have nice day.

I understand Ron Paul does not support the West Bank settlements and
other Israeli apartheid activities but I am not sure I have heard him
say bad things about Jews in general.

You do not have to go very far back to find plenty of prominent
democrats who were anti semites. Certainly within my lifetime.
Truman was notoriously anti semitic, racist and an all around asshole.



The State of Israel would not have existed with its recognition by the
Truman Administration.


By the time Truman / US government recognized Israel, was defacto
recognized by Europe. I have hint it was just a recognition of what was in
place.



Really? On May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed
its new state of Israel. That same date the United States recognized the
provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 1:45 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:31:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

I recall Randy Paul talking about why he believed restaurant owners and
others in that sort of biz should be able to discriminate as they wish.

In case you forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92M3mSKbwR4

The Pauls, father and son, are the most prominent loonytarians. And Ron
Paul had his name attached to some brochures that were blatantly
anti-Semitic.

Have nice day.

I understand Ron Paul does not support the West Bank settlements and
other Israeli apartheid activities but I am not sure I have heard him
say bad things about Jews in general.

You do not have to go very far back to find plenty of prominent
democrats who were anti semites. Certainly within my lifetime.
Truman was notoriously anti semitic, racist and an all around asshole.



The State of Israel would not have existed with its recognition by the
Truman Administration.


By the time Truman / US government recognized Israel, was defacto
recognized by Europe. I have hint it was just a recognition of what was in
place.



Really? On May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed
its new state of Israel. That same date the United States recognized the
provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state.


Europe was recognizing it, so what the hell, did not cost Truman anything.

On 7/6/16 5:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 1:45 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/6/16 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 11:31:05 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

I recall Randy Paul talking about why he believed restaurant owners and
others in that sort of biz should be able to discriminate as they wish.

In case you forgot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92M3mSKbwR4

The Pauls, father and son, are the most prominent loonytarians. And Ron
Paul had his name attached to some brochures that were blatantly
anti-Semitic.

Have nice day.

I understand Ron Paul does not support the West Bank settlements and
other Israeli apartheid activities but I am not sure I have heard him
say bad things about Jews in general.

You do not have to go very far back to find plenty of prominent
democrats who were anti semites. Certainly within my lifetime.
Truman was notoriously anti semitic, racist and an all around asshole.



The State of Israel would not have existed with its recognition by the
Truman Administration.


By the time Truman / US government recognized Israel, was defacto
recognized by Europe. I have hint it was just a recognition of what was in
place.



Really? On May 14, 1948, the Provisional Government of Israel proclaimed
its new state of Israel. That same date the United States recognized the
provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state.


Europe was recognizing it, so what the hell, did not cost Truman anything.


Truman pushed for the establishment of what became Israel beginning at
least in 1945, helped make the partition happen the way it did, and in
his early recognition of Israel, helped it become a modern, independent
state.