On Wed, 11 May 2016 09:47:04 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 5/11/2016 9:40 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a
buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards
his people.

The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a
brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in
corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around
the world changed history.

What was the dude thinking? Surely he must have known he'd end up a
krispy critter for no good reason. He must have had suicidal tendencies.

No doubt there were virgins involved. ;-)

On Wed, 11 May 2016 07:28:49 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 10:03:57 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
8:40 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a
buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards
his people.

The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a
brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in
corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around
the world changed history.
....

IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause"

whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the kid who holds its breath till it turns blue...

The monks had a rich history of self-immolation before that happened. It was just the latest, and was caught on film and put on the news all over the world at the "right" time. Kennedy, Diem, and the Roman Catholic Church should all be ashamed.

Yeah Harry glazes over the fact that all of that took place during St
John's administration.
I remember when "Madam Nhu" came to DC and was treated like the second
coming of Christ.

On Wed, 11 May 2016 10:37:02 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Harry must admire suicide bombers.




You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance
and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a
cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for
mankind.

That is what the Jihadists think anyway.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:

8:40 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a
buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards
his people.

The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a
brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in
corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around
the world changed history.
....

IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause"

whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the
kid who holds its breath till it turns blue...


Harry must admire suicide bombers.




You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance
and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a
cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for
mankind.


So you love those suicide martyrs.

wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:57:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my
working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to
scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't
think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present
yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as
evidenced by your comments to any discussion here.

Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats,
have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made
contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal
higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions
here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard
you hold for yourself.

The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who
chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working
years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless
in the real world.


Poor life choices and poor employment choices has Harry still out
there grinding out a meager existence while most of us his age are
comfortably retired. He will die working for someone else.
He rationalizes it every morning when his alarm clock goes off by
saying he likes it. Who "likes" a 2+ hour commute, even if the job is
tolerable?


I like my engineering jobs. But retired when the last employer screwed up,
and pretty much folded. Looking at a 1.5 hour morning and evening commute
decided the retirement.

On 5/11/16 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 06:56:32 -0400, Keine Krausescheiße
wrote:

On Wed, 11 May 2016 06:47:12 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 5/11/2016 1:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job.

Yup. That about sums up Harry Krause, the coward of rec.boats.

Harry probably thinks he's the only one who was 'smart' enough to get into college to beat the
draft.

And now he denigrates those who didn't do so.

I was "smart enough", accepted to U Md and GW. I just made the choice
to go the other way and let Sam pay for my college when I got out. My
circumstances changed when IBM offered me a job.


I actually don't know anyone who went to college to "beat the draft."
The guys my age I remember from high school went to college because they
wanted to get a leg up on a profession, or to study something or other
or sometimes because it was expected of them. The draft just wasn't that
"drafty" in 1962 when I started college.

On 5/11/16 11:46 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:01:57 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day. Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job.


Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including
one that resulted in ThÃ*ch Qu?ng ??c, a Buddhist monk, setting himself
on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate
patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's
education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's
too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you
might have learned some critical thinking skills.

In at least a half dozen posts you've told us how we should have gotten into at least a community
college to escape the draft.

What do *you* call that? To me, it's kinda chicken **** draft dodging.
--


Well, you certainly didn't need college to evolve into chicken ****, did
you?

On 5/11/16 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2016 08:07:13 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 5/11/16 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 21:27:20 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my problem that you were so ignorant of what was happening and
going to happen in SE Asia. It isn't because you grew up in the midwest,
because there was plenty of news available there and nationally about
the horrors of the Vietnamese government we were propping up. Basically,
you "dumbed" your way into that war. Couldn't you get into an open
admissions JUCO?

I suppose you could just say LBJ lied us into that war but you would
be defaming a famous democrat.
In 1964 when I signed my commitment for the CG, this is what he was
saying
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3

The fear of joining the army at that time was you would be stuck in Ft
Dix, painting rocks white outside the officer's club for 2 years. I
wanted something more interesting.
I was hoping for a Florida life boat station.


Translating that into "Greg-Think," you joined the coast guard so you
could avoid the army and the risk of being sent to Vietnam as rifle
fodder. So...you were a draft dodger.

That is not right at all. Remember, LBJ just told us he was not going
to send American boys off to war. It was the days of the "Elvis and
Sgt Bilko" army.
I tried to go to Vietnam twice on 1965. (Navy PBRs and GC 83 footers)
Both times the request was denied.


Why did you want to go to Vietnam? Do you think the North Vietnamese
posed any threat to the United States? Did you want to prop up the
dictatorship in South Vietnam? Were you hoping to shag Jane Fonda? (I
would have if I had had the opportunity.)

On 5/11/16 12:30 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 10:24 AM, Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:

8:40 AMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Well, of course you don't feel sorry for the monk, because he was a
buddhist protesting christian barbarism and gross discrimination towards
his people.

The reality is that the self-immolation by that monk helped bring down a
brutal government, albeit it was replaced by one that equaled it in
corruption. The monk's act and the spreading of the photos of it around
the world changed history.
....

IE "look at me. I'm going to kill myself for a cause"

whatever. Same goes for hunger strikes. Just a more permanent end to the
kid who holds its breath till it turns blue...


Harry must admire suicide bombers.




You are living proof that one cannot overstate the amount of ignorance
and stupidity in rec.boats. History is full of martyrs who died for a
cause and some of those deaths resulted in real, positive change for
mankind.


So you love those suicide martyrs.


You really are ignorant and stupid, aren't you?

On 5/11/2016 9:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2016 8:01 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 5/11/16 1:09 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:14:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


It's not my fault that you and FlaJim the other right-wing Asshole
were
too stupid or lazy to get into a community college back in the day.
Even
a state four year college back then was cheap enough so that a student
could pay his or her way with part time and summer job.

Yeah, **** your country, duck the draft and get a jingle writing job.


Helping your country prop up a series of brutal dictatorships, including
one that resulted in ThÃ*ch Quảng Ä�ức, a Buddhist monk, setting himself
on fire to protest Christian brutality, is not an example of appropriate
patriotism. Oh, and your terminology is deficient, too. Continuing one's
education is not "ducking" the draft so long as one is registered. It's
too bad you didn't avail yourself of a formal higher education...you
might have learned some critical thinking skills.

I met and dealt with hundreds if not thousands of people during my
working career. They typically ranged from entry level tradespeople to
scientists and/or management personal with multiple Phd's. I don't
think I ever met anyone as narrow and shallow minded as you present
yourself here Harry. "Critical thinking" is not your forte, as
evidenced by your comments to any discussion here.

Millions of people in the world, including many posters to rec.boats,
have or had highly successful careers, accomplishments and made
contributions to society without benefit of what you regard as a "formal
higher education". Based on what I have deduced from your contributions
here, many are far more educated in meaningful ways than the high regard
you hold for yourself.

The only people I've met who think and sound like you are those who
chose (or were forced) to remain in academia for all their working
years. Yes, they have an abundance of knowledge, but most of it useless
in the real world.



But no comment from you regarding the "Yeah, **** your country, duck the
draft and get a jingle writing job," eh?

Real critical thinking. D'uh.


I said "many". "Many" doesn't mean "all".