Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002.
It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy
Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities
and styles.

What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style
and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about
"themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political
"mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and
short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became
disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and
tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose
Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the
Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats.

Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among
political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the
American Political Science Association.

Is the Donald being sold short?

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.

On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:37:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:

More Krausescheiße!

Tell us about your 'Vietnam Service', Krause.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?

On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:37:03 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.

Harry, can't you figure out that nobody here likes the guy? Can't you?

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:11:47 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

You are really spinning that or you did not actually see the show.
His answer about Duke was he did not know Duke had endorsed him and he
repudiated it.
As for the quote, he said he did not know it was Mussolini but he
liked the line
I bet Mussolini did not write "“It is better to live one day as a lion
than 100 years as a sheep.", he just heard it somewhere himself.
My bet is the Romans heard it from someone in North Africa before the
birth of Jesus and it has been in the Italian culture for eons.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Trump but this is bull****.

7:23 PMMr. Luddite

Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002.
It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy
Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities
and styles.

What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style
and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about
"themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political
"mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and
short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became
disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and
tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose
Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the
Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats.

Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among
political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the
American Political Science Association.

Is the Donald being sold short?
.......

I'd rather Teddy be running today than Trump