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![]() Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002. It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities and styles. What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about "themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political "mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats. Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the American Political Science Association. Is the Donald being sold short? |
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On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Is the Donald being sold short? === I don't think he'll be getting my vote. TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so much. What you see is what you get. |
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7:23 PMMr. Luddite
Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002. It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities and styles. What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about "themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political "mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats. Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the American Political Science Association. Is the Donald being sold short? ....... I'd rather Teddy be running today than Trump |
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On 2/28/16 8:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002. It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities and styles. What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about "themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political "mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats. Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the American Political Science Association. Is the Donald being sold short? Excuse me while I puke. |
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On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Is the Donald being sold short? === I don't think he'll be getting my vote. TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so much. What you see is what you get. I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an honorable life. I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be the guy we see now, That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process. The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said, they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole was to the left of him by the election. Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist, Mussolini. He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months, and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape. They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now. The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to TR is odious. Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is bull****: Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000: “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.” Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats. |
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On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:37:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: More Krausescheiße! Tell us about your 'Vietnam Service', Krause. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Is the Donald being sold short? === I don't think he'll be getting my vote. TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so much. What you see is what you get. I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an honorable life. I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be the guy we see now, That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process. The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said, they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole was to the left of him by the election. Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist, Mussolini. He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months, and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape. They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now. The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to TR is odious. Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is bull****: Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000: “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.” Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats. And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what? |
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On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Is the Donald being sold short? === I don't think he'll be getting my vote. TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so much. What you see is what you get. I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an honorable life. I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be the guy we see now, That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process. The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said, they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole was to the left of him by the election. Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist, Mussolini. He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months, and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape. They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now. The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to TR is odious. Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is bull****: Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000: “The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.” Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats. And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what? Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is. |
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