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[email protected] February 26th 16 01:51 AM

No golf today
 
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, Alex wrote:

Thanks. My points of reference these days remain my electrostatics and
a friend's setup with genuine Klipschhorns.

Sure.


He heard that word from Luddite.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


I'm sure he did. He can't invent his possessions without the help of
others or Google.


===

I wish he'd tell us again about the imaginary Hatteras sportfish. That
was some fine boat and I'll bet he misses it. His neighbors on that
run down street in Jacksonville must have been impressed with it also.

Keyser Söze February 26th 16 01:53 AM

No golf today
 
On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:


He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if
the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize
some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--



This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For
example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to
them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of
acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they
are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud
electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals.
For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out,
faithfully reproduced, of course.

Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal,
speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a
"East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some
using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast
speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush"
sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll
and "surf" music that originated on the west coast.

In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker
sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and
eventually Bose in 1968.





Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I
don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels.

Keyser Söze February 26th 16 01:56 AM

No golf today
 
On 2/25/16 8:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:


He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--


This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


Please show me where I ever made such a statement, or is that just more Krausescheiße? I will say that there are some small expensive speakers that deliver better sound than some big expensive speakers. Size and cost matters to you narcissists, but listening enjoyment matters to most normal people. Of course, listening enjoyment doesn't bestow 'bragging rights' which is something you sorely need. That's a shame.


I doubt a Bach organ fugue played on and recorded off a serious pipe
organ sounds better on a small speaker than on a large speaker, assuming
the speakers are of excellent quality. A small speaker, no matter the
equalization, is not going to be able to properly reproduce and present
the bass notes played by the pedals. I know that because I used to carry
a CD when shopping for speakers, and on your Bose 901s, which I once
tried out at Myer-Emco, I believe, the pedal notes sounded like farts.

True North[_2_] February 26th 16 03:19 AM

No golf today
 
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.


"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

Mr. Luddite February 26th 16 07:33 AM

No golf today
 
On 2/25/2016 8:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 8:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn,
if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to
recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--

This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


Please show me where I ever made such a statement, or is that just
more Krausescheiße? I will say that there are some small expensive
speakers that deliver better sound than some big expensive speakers.
Size and cost matters to you narcissists, but listening enjoyment
matters to most normal people. Of course, listening enjoyment doesn't
bestow 'bragging rights' which is something you sorely need. That's a
shame.


I doubt a Bach organ fugue played on and recorded off a serious pipe
organ sounds better on a small speaker than on a large speaker, assuming
the speakers are of excellent quality. A small speaker, no matter the
equalization, is not going to be able to properly reproduce and present
the bass notes played by the pedals. I know that because I used to carry
a CD when shopping for speakers, and on your Bose 901s, which I once
tried out at Myer-Emco, I believe, the pedal notes sounded like farts.



I don't know of any speaker ... large or small, expensive or not, that
can accurately reproduce "lifelike" bass pedals tones of a pipe organ
and that includes your maggies. A good sized, powered subwoofer might
helps at low volumes but it really doesn't matter anyway because the
recording of the pipe organ can't contain the full, "lifelike" tones to
begin with. You are trying to reproduce something that isn't there.

The system I had at the guitar shop's performance stage consisted of a
pair of powered JBL speakers (700 watts each) that had horns, midrange
speakers and 15" woofers. In addition, the system had two, 18" powered
JBL subwoofers at 1000 watts each. They wouldn't be able to accurately
reproduce the "lifelike", full range and intensity of a pipe organ
either. I had a B3 Hammond with Leslie on the stage that was "mike'd"
to the mixing board which, in turn, fed the audio to the JBL mains and
subs. Did a decent job but it's still not a pipe organ.




Mr. Luddite February 26th 16 07:41 AM

No golf today
 
On 2/25/2016 8:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if
the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize
some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--



This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For
example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to
them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of
acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they
are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud
electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals.
For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out,
faithfully reproduced, of course.

Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal,
speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a
"East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some
using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast
speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush"
sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll
and "surf" music that originated on the west coast.

In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker
sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and
eventually Bose in 1968.






Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I
don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels.


Hmmm. You might be wasting your time and space in your living room with
those big maggies then. They have to be driven fairly hard to
accurately produce a "lifelike" sound. Maybe you'd be better off with
a good set of bookshelf speakers. Bowers & Wilkins 600 series come
immediately to mind.



Mr. Luddite February 26th 16 08:03 AM

No golf today
 
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:


He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--


This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.



You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better. Plus, I seem to
remember that his musical "library" is contained on a computer or other
digital device. What is the format of these recordings? Compressed mp3
or mp4 files? They toss out a good part of the "lifelike" recording
anyway. Even a high quality CD has limitations on dynamic range unless
they are Super CD's recorded in an entirely different format. His
"Maggies" are fine speakers, especially for his musical tastes, but even
they can't faithfully reproduce some of the stuff he is
talking about, even if it existed.



John H.[_5_] February 26th 16 11:51 AM

No golf today
 
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 02:41:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2016 8:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if
the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize
some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--


This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For
example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to
them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of
acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they
are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud
electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals.
For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out,
faithfully reproduced, of course.

Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal,
speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a
"East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some
using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast
speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush"
sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll
and "surf" music that originated on the west coast.

In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker
sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and
eventually Bose in 1968.






Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I
don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels.


Hmmm. You might be wasting your time and space in your living room with
those big maggies then. They have to be driven fairly hard to
accurately produce a "lifelike" sound. Maybe you'd be better off with
a good set of bookshelf speakers. Bowers & Wilkins 600 series come
immediately to mind.


When Harry goes to live performances he asks them to keep the volume down. That way
he can say his 'big maggies' (if he actually has any, which I doubt) match the sound
of the orchestra.

--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 26th 16 11:53 AM

No golf today
 
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 03:03:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--

This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.



You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better. Plus, I seem to
remember that his musical "library" is contained on a computer or other
digital device. What is the format of these recordings? Compressed mp3
or mp4 files? They toss out a good part of the "lifelike" recording
anyway. Even a high quality CD has limitations on dynamic range unless
they are Super CD's recorded in an entirely different format. His
"Maggies" are fine speakers, especially for his musical tastes, but even
they can't faithfully reproduce some of the stuff he is
talking about, even if it existed.


You doubt???
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Tim February 26th 16 12:11 PM

No golf today
 
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--

This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.



You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better.


Some people confuse quality with volume

Califbill February 26th 16 03:23 PM

No golf today
 
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--

This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?

Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.



You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better.


Some people confuse quality with volume


" I don' care what you play, but play it loud". Good morning, Vietnam


Alex[_8_] February 27th 16 01:50 AM

No golf today
 
John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 20:10:16 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:
He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn,
if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize
some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--
This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to
your ignorance, JohnnyTrash?


He was discussing computer speakers. I have a pair of Klipsch speakers
in my living room that are rarely used but sound great. Two different
topics.

I have Sony speakers on one of my boats and they sound pretty good!

Hell, he doesn't know the difference between genuine and fake Klipschorns. How could
you expect him to stick to the subject?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


His narcissism overtook the thread...again.

Alex[_8_] February 27th 16 01:56 AM

No golf today
 
True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

I went to school so let's see who is the dummy, dummy...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=countries+in+north+america

Alex[_8_] February 27th 16 02:00 AM

No golf today
 
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:19:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

If you start in Panama and include all of the islands you end up with
23


I remember from high school many years ago that is was over 30 - trick
question, of course. It turns out that there are more than 30.

Alex[_8_] February 27th 16 02:01 AM

No golf today
 
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--
This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?
Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.


You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better.

Some people confuse quality with volume


I agree, but you need a certain amount of volume to bring out the
quality. That would depend on the source and the speakers, of course.

Tim February 27th 16 02:26 AM

No golf today
 
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--
This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?
Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.


You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better.


Some people confuse quality with volume


I agree, but you need a certain amount of volume to bring out the
quality. That would depend on the source and the speakers, of course.

agreed.

A minimum of 200w was recommended for the pair of Walsh f2's where quality earbud's can be rated in mW



True North[_2_] February 27th 16 03:18 AM

No golf today
 
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:19:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

If you start in Panama and include all of the islands you end up with
23


"I remember from high school many years ago that is was over 30 - trick
question, of course. *It turns out that there are more than 30."


Greg is correct, dummy. You can't count dependent territories as countries.

RGrew176 February 27th 16 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True North[_2_] (Post 1056312)
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.


"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

The 23 countries in North America a

Antigua and Barbuda
Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Grenada
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Jamaica
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago
United States

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 01:15 PM

No golf today
 
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:56:55 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

I went to school so let's see who is the dummy, dummy...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=countries+in+north+america


That was way cool. I thought you'd somehow got Team Viewer running on my machine
behind my back.

Obviously Don was overwhelmed. He's not responded.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 01:19 PM

No golf today
 
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 18:26:47 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 8:01:23 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:
He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed.

It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label
isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some
not-so-genuine Klipschorns.
--
This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more
lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your
ignorance, JohnnyTrash?
Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If
you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use
speakers you can hold in one hand.


You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world
of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better.


Some people confuse quality with volume


I agree, but you need a certain amount of volume to bring out the
quality. That would depend on the source and the speakers, of course.

agreed.

A minimum of 200w was recommended for the pair of Walsh f2's where quality earbud's can be rated in mW


I can hear Harry now:

"Christoph Eschenbach came to my house for dinner and said he wished the National
Symphony Orchestra could sound as good as my Magnepans."

Just a matter of time.
--

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True North[_2_] February 27th 16 01:26 PM

No golf today
 
John H.
- hide quoted text -
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:56:55 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

I went to school so let's see who is the dummy, dummy...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=countries+in+north+america


"That was way cool. I thought you'd somehow got Team Viewer running on my machine
behind my back.

Obviously Don was overwhelmed. He's not responded. "



What are you gossiping about now, Clara?
Two independent posters have confirmed the number of countries in North America stands at 23....not the " three dozen" Ditzy claims. You claimed to be a school teacher, surely you know the difference.

Keyser Söze February 27th 16 02:11 PM

No golf today
 
On 2/27/16 8:26 AM, True North wrote:
John H.
- hide quoted text -
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:56:55 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

I went to school so let's see who is the dummy, dummy...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=countries+in+north+america


"That was way cool. I thought you'd somehow got Team Viewer running on my machine
behind my back.

Obviously Don was overwhelmed. He's not responded. "



What are you gossiping about now, Clara?
Two independent posters have confirmed the number of countries in North America stands at 23....not the " three dozen" Ditzy claims. You claimed to be a school teacher, surely you know the difference.


It was during those days when JohnnyMop claimed to be a substitute
teacher that his racism and lack of empathy was displayed here. If he
was a teacher, he had to be a lousy one.

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 02:32 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 05:26:28 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
- hide quoted text -
On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 20:56:55 -0500, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

I went to school so let's see who is the dummy, dummy...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=countries+in+north+america


"That was way cool. I thought you'd somehow got Team Viewer running on my machine
behind my back.

Obviously Don was overwhelmed. He's not responded. "



What are you gossiping about now, Clara?
Two independent posters have confirmed the number of countries in North America stands at 23....not the " three dozen" Ditzy claims. You claimed to be a school teacher, surely you know the difference.


Much closer than the 'one' that you claimed. But I'll be sociable and not call you
any names, how's that Don?
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True North[_2_] February 27th 16 04:32 PM

No golf today
 
"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Are you OD'n on your own rancor?

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 04:49 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Are you OD'n on your own rancor?


Go read your posts Don. I shouldn't have to read them for you.
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John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 05:02 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Are you OD'n on your own rancor?


So when do you pick up your boat, Don?
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True North[_2_] February 27th 16 06:04 PM

No golf today
 
John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? *Are you OD'n on your own rancor?


"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 06:53 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? *Are you OD'n on your own rancor?


"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

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True North[_2_] February 27th 16 07:00 PM

No golf today
 
On Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:53:05 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? *Are you OD'n on your own rancor?


"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


Forgot to ask him that...but as long as I can get under the gunnels I can do that myself....probably better than they would.
Comes with Bow and cockpit covers.
Swim platform extension
track storage system
bimini
AM/FM radio with Mp3 and USB ports
Desert sand interior exchange (upholstery upgrade)
I'm having them install a depth sounder and a 12v outlet for powering my GPS/VHF/spotlight/cellphone whatever.

John H.[_5_] February 27th 16 07:30 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:00:10 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:53:05 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? *Are you OD'n on your own rancor?

"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


Forgot to ask him that...but as long as I can get under the gunnels I can do that myself....probably better than they would.
Comes with Bow and cockpit covers.
Swim platform extension
track storage system
bimini
AM/FM radio with Mp3 and USB ports
Desert sand interior exchange (upholstery upgrade)
I'm having them install a depth sounder and a 12v outlet for powering my GPS/VHF/spotlight/cellphone whatever.


Cool. You'll want to make sure that bimini is through-bolted before you do much
bouncing around. What is the 'track storage system'? Haven't heard of that. Came
across this while trying to figure out what that was:

http://www.boattest.com/review/bayli...175-br_rel2234

The reviewer might have had some ideas you could use.
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[email protected] February 27th 16 11:35 PM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:00:10 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:53:05 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Â*Are you OD'n on your own rancor?

"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


Forgot to ask him that...but as long as I can get under the gunnels I can do that myself....probably better than they would.
Comes with Bow and cockpit covers.
Swim platform extension
track storage system
bimini
AM/FM radio with Mp3 and USB ports
Desert sand interior exchange (upholstery upgrade)
I'm having them install a depth sounder and a 12v outlet for powering my GPS/VHF/spotlight/cellphone whatever.

If you can get to both sides, an aluminum plate is better than
washers. I usually mark and drill the first hole, run a bolt up on
that one then drill through the existing holes for the rest,. Then
they always match up ;-)

Old road signs are great pieces of aluminum for this kind of thing if
you can find them. Usually you can talk the DOT guys out of the old
ones if they were bent up and replaced.
I still have a pretty good stash from some guys I talked to in front
of my house who had a few in the truck. I got 3 of them that were
30x30x1/8". They generally come in 2 grades, 3/32" and 1/8" but the
big ones on the freeway are even thicker than that.

Those Nav markers I made for some missing ones in the Estero Channel
came from 2 of them. I just laid them on my anvil and hammered out the
bent up parts.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/new%2034%20signs.jpg
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/new%2034.jpg

True North[_2_] February 28th 16 12:08 AM

No golf today
 

On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:00:10 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:53:05 UTC-4, John H. *wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? *Are you OD'n on your own rancor?

"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. *They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


Forgot to ask him that...but as long as I can get under the gunnels I can do that myself....probably better than they would.
Comes with Bow and cockpit covers.
Swim platform extension
track storage system
bimini
AM/FM radio with Mp3 and USB ports
Desert sand interior exchange (upholstery upgrade)
I'm having them install a depth sounder and a 12v outlet for powering my GPS/VHF/spotlight/cellphone whatever.

"If you can get to both sides, an aluminum plate is better than
washers. I usually mark and drill the first hole, run a bolt up on
that one then drill through the existing holes for the rest,. Then
they always match up *;-)

Old road signs are great pieces of aluminum for this kind of thing if
you can find them. Usually you can talk the DOT guys out of the old
ones if they were bent up and replaced.
I still have a pretty good stash from some guys I talked to in front
of my house who had a few in the truck. I got 3 of them that were
30x30x1/8". They generally come in 2 grades, 3/32" and 1/8" but the
big ones on the freeway are even thicker than that.

Those Nav markers I made for some missing ones in the Estero Channel
came from 2 of them. I just laid them on my anvil and hammered out the
bent up parts."


I still have some 1/4" aluminum plate I bought from a machine shop for this purpose when mounting cleats and a boarding ladder on my Sandpiper 565 sailboat.

True North[_2_] February 28th 16 12:13 AM

No golf today
 
John sez...

"Cool. You'll want to make sure that bimini is through-bolted before you do much
bouncing around. What is the 'track storage system'? Haven't heard of that. Came
across this while trying to figure out what that was:"

Guy at dealers says it's a storage system mounted below the gunnels on inside bulwark.
Somewhere I saw nylon mesh bags hanging there. Probably changes from year to year.

John H.[_5_] February 28th 16 12:52 AM

No golf today
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 16:13:44 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John sez...

"Cool. You'll want to make sure that bimini is through-bolted before you do much
bouncing around. What is the 'track storage system'? Haven't heard of that. Came
across this while trying to figure out what that was:"

Guy at dealers says it's a storage system mounted below the gunnels on inside bulwark.
Somewhere I saw nylon mesh bags hanging there. Probably changes from year to year.


Oh, OK. On one of the videos it showed a couple of bungee cords there. It would seem
anything else would be better than that.
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Alex[_8_] February 28th 16 03:50 AM

No golf today
 
True North (Dummy Don White) wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers..
wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:19:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.

"You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North
America, dummy."


OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America.
Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link?

If you start in Panama and include all of the islands you end up with
23

"I remember from high school many years ago that is was over 30 - trick
question, of course. It turns out that there are more than 30."


Greg is correct, dummy. You can't count dependent territories as countries.


Semantics aside, the number is certainly more than the three in your
post, dip****.

Alex[_8_] February 28th 16 03:55 AM

No golf today
 
True North wrote:
John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Are you OD'n on your own rancor?

"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.


Let them know the Legend has to be towed on a flatbed so the debris
doesn't fall all over the highway on the way to the scrap yard.


Alex[_8_] February 28th 16 03:57 AM

No golf today
 
True North wrote:
On Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:53:05 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 10:04:34 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

John H.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 08:32:06 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

"one"???
What "one" did I claim Johnny? Are you OD'n on your own rancor?
"So when do you pick up your boat, Don?"


I don't. They will deliver it in May and pick up my Legend 16 Xcalibur. I've been in touch with them this weekend to make sure all the options we talked about at the boat show are included on my boat.

Are you getting a bimini that is mounted with through-bolts?

What other cool options are you getting?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Forgot to ask him that...but as long as I can get under the gunnels I can do that myself....probably better than they would.
Comes with Bow and cockpit covers.
Swim platform extension
track storage system
bimini
AM/FM radio with Mp3 and USB ports
Desert sand interior exchange (upholstery upgrade)
I'm having them install a depth sounder and a 12v outlet for powering my GPS/VHF/spotlight/cellphone whatever.


That will be a mighty, seagoing vessel!


True North[_2_] February 28th 16 01:49 PM

No golf today
 
Ditzy Dan Kruger spittles...
- show quoted text -

"Semantics aside, the number is certainly more than the three in your
post, dip****."

The original comment was who would be called ' merican.
I pointed out that neither Canadians nor Mexicans are 'mericans. I'd love to see a big mouth like you go to Panama or Cuba and tell them they are 'mericans.

John H.[_5_] February 28th 16 03:45 PM

No golf today
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:49:41 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger spittles...
- show quoted text -

"Semantics aside, the number is certainly more than the three in your
post, dip****."

The original comment was who would be called ' merican.
I pointed out that neither Canadians nor Mexicans are 'mericans. I'd love to see a big mouth like you go to Panama or Cuba and tell them they are 'mericans.


None of them.
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[email protected] February 28th 16 04:10 PM

No golf today
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 10:45:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 05:49:41 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger spittles...
- show quoted text -

"Semantics aside, the number is certainly more than the three in your
post, dip****."

The original comment was who would be called ' merican.
I pointed out that neither Canadians nor Mexicans are 'mericans. I'd love to see a big mouth like you go to Panama or Cuba and tell them they are 'mericans.


None of them.


There are plenty of latinos who point out that they are "Americans"
too. They distinguish us as "Norte Americanos".


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