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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:45:21 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/20/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote: I don't know what he'll do if and when I get a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch with the wooden stock. -- Laugh, of course. I chose the stainless steel model, which comes with a black mystery plastic stock. The plastic stock weighs a little less than the wood stock. My Henry lever rifle has a nice wood stock, while my CZ 455 has a plastic stock, too. There are nice wood stocks available for both the Ruger and CZ, if I wanted them. Which I don't. Well of course stainless steel. What else? -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:48:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/20/16 2:42 PM, John H. wrote: I've found that Harry considers anything owned by another inferior to anything he own. Just my experience, mind you. That's because you have a third-rate brain. Well, since it's mine, and as my previous statement is true, my brain is definitely inferior to yours. Trust me, however, head size doesn't count. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On 2/20/16 6:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:48:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/20/16 2:42 PM, John H. wrote: I've found that Harry considers anything owned by another inferior to anything he own. Just my experience, mind you. That's because you have a third-rate brain. Well, since it's mine, and as my previous statement is true, my brain is definitely inferior to yours. Trust me, however, head size doesn't count. -- A lot of women would dispute that. :) |
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On 2/20/16 6:06 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:45:21 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/20/16 3:46 PM, John H. wrote: I don't know what he'll do if and when I get a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch with the wooden stock. -- Laugh, of course. I chose the stainless steel model, which comes with a black mystery plastic stock. The plastic stock weighs a little less than the wood stock. My Henry lever rifle has a nice wood stock, while my CZ 455 has a plastic stock, too. There are nice wood stocks available for both the Ruger and CZ, if I wanted them. Which I don't. Well of course stainless steel. What else? -- *Not* stainless steel, such as my Henry and my CZ. I like satin finish, not glossy, stainless on firearms, but it isn't always an option. Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. |
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True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers... True North wrote: Oh boy...now I feel really cold. Local CBC says it's minus 12C but feels like minus 23C due to wind. I'd better buy a new outdoor thermometer...or place the current one further from the house. "Sure you can afford one?" I can afford to buy a new boat, dummy. Wife and I picked out one yesterday at the local boat show. Nice! Does it have a hull guarantee, big spender? Did you find some sucker to buy your current disaster? |
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John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:38:42 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers... True North wrote: Oh boy...now I feel really cold. Local CBC says it's minus 12C but feels like minus 23C due to wind. I'd better buy a new outdoor thermometer...or place the current one further from the house. "Sure you can afford one?" I can afford to buy a new boat, dummy. Wife and I picked out one yesterday at the local boat show. So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive! -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! I have these. The controller is outstanding! https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...nion5_graphite |
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True North wrote:
John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Did you expect the salesman to convince you of anything else? I would never own an I/O for sal****er use on any boat. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/20/16 8:31 AM, True North wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Sounds like fun to me. Enjoy! Sure. If ANYONE else posted the same thing you would have a different reply. |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:46:20 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:06:08 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 2/20/2016 2:42 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 14:34:13 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: On 2/20/2016 1:45 PM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:47:52 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: ...and there are two free public ramps that I could walk to and a couple more within a 18 minute drive. If you talk about a 30 minute drive you can add maybe four more. Some are iffy at low tide and some don't have a raft next to launch ramp. If you don't mind paying you can add even more at the local yacht clubs. Anyway, it's official...I signed on the dotted line. Maybe the spirit of Skipper can look out for me. Enjoy. I know this is another AMF thing but my ex has a Bayliner (32') and she seems to like it. Skipper loved his. I don't know why Harry thought of it as an inferior boat. I've found that Harry considers anything owned by another inferior to anything he own. Just my experience, mind you. I don't know what he'll do if and when I get a Ruger Mini-14 Ranch with the wooden stock. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! He's already one-upped you. Harry is having his stocks replaced with some made of Corian. I don't know why he didn't take it a step further and have them made of granite or stylestone. I'm thinking maybe Corinthian Leather upholstery on the stock. The Corinthian Leather is for the holster and you only shoot crystal water bottles with silver bullets. |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. |
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On 2/20/2016 6:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:48:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/20/16 2:42 PM, John H. wrote: I've found that Harry considers anything owned by another inferior to anything he own. Just my experience, mind you. That's because you have a third-rate brain. Well, since it's mine, and as my previous statement is true, my brain is definitely inferior to yours. Trust me, however, head size doesn't count. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! Ah ha. You must have seen the picture he took of his bald mellon head reflected in the glass of the patio door he was so proud to have someone else install for him over the deck that someone else installed for him sitting on posts in holes that someone else dug for him. What a craftsman he was. |
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On 2/20/2016 9:40 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Did you expect the salesman to convince you of anything else? I would never own an I/O for sal****er use on any boat. A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of. |
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On 2/21/2016 8:52 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/21/16 12:09 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. Ruger and third party suppliers can provide a variety of stocks for the Mini-14 and most other "popular" rifles, including stocks that look identical to what the factory supplies. No question that a well-done wood stock is "prettier" than the black "plastic" one on my Mini-14. Running out of cash to finance your gun fetish? |
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On 2/20/2016 6:11 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/20/16 6:08 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:48:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/20/16 2:42 PM, John H. wrote: I've found that Harry considers anything owned by another inferior to anything he own. Just my experience, mind you. That's because you have a third-rate brain. Well, since it's mine, and as my previous statement is true, my brain is definitely inferior to yours. Trust me, however, head size doesn't count. -- A lot of women would dispute that. :) It's hard to tell sometimes, which head of yours is writing this crap. |
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FlatulentJim farts...
A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of." Guess I got a good deal then. On the sales sticker the dealer estimated that 2016 models in Canadian would be around $30k. Mine is a left over 2015 ordered before our loonie really nose dived. Same old motor for the time being although there are plans to retire the 3.0 in favour of a 4.3 I believe. That sounds like a big engine for a 17.5 foot open boat. |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:52:09 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 2/21/16 12:09 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. Ruger and third party suppliers can provide a variety of stocks for the Mini-14 and most other "popular" rifles, including stocks that look identical to what the factory supplies. No question that a well-done wood stock is "prettier" than the black "plastic" one on my Mini-14. I have never had a long gun with a plastic stock. |
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On 2/21/16 9:56 AM, True North wrote:
FlatulentJim farts... A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of." Guess I got a good deal then. On the sales sticker the dealer estimated that 2016 models in Canadian would be around $30k. Mine is a left over 2015 ordered before our loonie really nose dived. Same old motor for the time being although there are plans to retire the 3.0 in favour of a 4.3 I believe. That sounds like a big engine for a 17.5 foot open boat. FlaJim is boatless. Therefore a rubber ducky would be a better boat than he has. |
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On 2/21/16 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:52:09 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/21/16 12:09 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. Ruger and third party suppliers can provide a variety of stocks for the Mini-14 and most other "popular" rifles, including stocks that look identical to what the factory supplies. No question that a well-done wood stock is "prettier" than the black "plastic" one on my Mini-14. I have never had a long gun with a plastic stock. I wanted the stainless receiver and barrel on my Mini-14, and that means a plastic stock. It's also a tad lighter than the wood stock, which I like. |
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On 2/21/2016 9:56 AM, True North wrote:
FlatulentJim farts... A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of." Guess I got a good deal then. On the sales sticker the dealer estimated that 2016 models in Canadian would be around $30k. Mine is a left over 2015 ordered before our loonie really nose dived. Same old motor for the time being although there are plans to retire the 3.0 in favour of a 4.3 I believe. That sounds like a big engine for a 17.5 foot open boat. I don't know whether or not you got a good deal. Ask your salesman. :-) I think your instincts are correct. The extra weight of the 4.3 would likely make the boat squat and make it hard to plane off. I'm curious as to why your wife thinks this boat is a step up. |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:37:40 -0500, Alex wrote:
John H. wrote: On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:38:42 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers... True North wrote: Oh boy...now I feel really cold. Local CBC says it's minus 12C but feels like minus 23C due to wind. I'd better buy a new outdoor thermometer...or place the current one further from the house. "Sure you can afford one?" I can afford to buy a new boat, dummy. Wife and I picked out one yesterday at the local boat show. So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive! -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! I have these. The controller is outstanding! https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...nion5_graphite I looked at that in Best Buy. If they'd had one in stock, I may have brought it home. Luckily, they were out of them. I came home, moved the subwoofer to a different spot, and listened to the Saint-Saëns symphony at a reasonable volume. Sounded great, so I'm going to stick with these old Logitech Z2300s for a while longer. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:40:45 -0500, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Did you expect the salesman to convince you of anything else? I would never own an I/O for sal****er use on any boat. The exhaust manifold should be pretty easy to switch out on that inline 4. Very accessible, and only one of them. I had to replace mine, on the 5.7L, after about seven years. But, if I had the choice, I'd take the outboard. Either way he'll have to flush it after every trip. Keeping the boat in the driveway makes flushing much more handy then trying to find a wash rack somewhere. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 06:56:49 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
FlatulentJim farts... A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of." Guess I got a good deal then. On the sales sticker the dealer estimated that 2016 models in Canadian would be around $30k. Mine is a left over 2015 ordered before our loonie really nose dived. Same old motor for the time being although there are plans to retire the 3.0 in favour of a 4.3 I believe. That sounds like a big engine for a 17.5 foot open boat. For that boat, I'd be happier with the 4 cylinder rather than the 6. My son-in-law had the six, on a 24' Chapparal. Lots of power. More than you'd need, I think. Also, you'd have twice as many manifolds to worry about! -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:41:41 -0500, Alex wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/20/16 8:31 AM, True North wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Sounds like fun to me. Enjoy! Sure. If ANYONE else posted the same thing you would have a different reply. I'm glad to see him changing his attitude! -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:32:52 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:52:09 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/21/16 12:09 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. Ruger and third party suppliers can provide a variety of stocks for the Mini-14 and most other "popular" rifles, including stocks that look identical to what the factory supplies. No question that a well-done wood stock is "prettier" than the black "plastic" one on my Mini-14. I have never had a long gun with a plastic stock. I never will, although I did have one on loan for a year. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:35:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/21/16 9:56 AM, True North wrote: FlatulentJim farts... A local BJs wholesale club was selling the exact same model through a local boat dealer last year for $17995. That's probably $30,000 canadian. That's a lot of cash to pay for something Harry thinks very little of." Guess I got a good deal then. On the sales sticker the dealer estimated that 2016 models in Canadian would be around $30k. Mine is a left over 2015 ordered before our loonie really nose dived. Same old motor for the time being although there are plans to retire the 3.0 in favour of a 4.3 I believe. That sounds like a big engine for a 17.5 foot open boat. FlaJim is boatless. Therefore a rubber ducky would be a better boat than he has. How many rubber duckies do you have, Krause? Do they all have twin Volvo diesels? -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:44:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/21/16 11:32 AM, wrote: On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 08:52:09 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/21/16 12:09 AM, wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 18:15:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Stainless with a wood stock on that Mini-14 would be nice, but I don't believe it is a current option. I know they made them because I have a friend with one ... selective fire and a real pretty wood stock. Ruger and third party suppliers can provide a variety of stocks for the Mini-14 and most other "popular" rifles, including stocks that look identical to what the factory supplies. No question that a well-done wood stock is "prettier" than the black "plastic" one on my Mini-14. I have never had a long gun with a plastic stock. I wanted the stainless receiver and barrel on my Mini-14, and that means a plastic stock. It's also a tad lighter than the wood stock, which I like. We know about your aversion to weight. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:55:32 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:40:45 -0500, Alex wrote: True North wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures? Here I've spent hours reading and listening to computer sound systems, and you're doing something constructive!" Won't actually have it until May. Have to go back to the Boat Show on their dime to sign the paperwork around 1100 hrs. Since I'm somewhat limited by our narrow driveway, the new boat is only a foot longer and a few inches wider. Since it's made of fiberglass, it's about 50 per cent heavier. In order to not get bitten by our seventy cent dollar, I opted for a brand new 2015 model. Since I'll be doing my deep water sailing on a 39 foot sailboat this summer the idea was to not spend too much money to get something the wife will want to go out on on fine days. There were two versions of the same boat. The outboard model and a MerCruiser 3.0 I/O model with a big extended swim platform to make it easier for us and the dog to re-board. It's a compromise as usual. Could have gotten a bare bones more sea worthy boat for a bit more, but the wife wouldn't hear of it. It's a Bayliner 175BR. Yeah, I know...they had their problems with quality a few years back but the salesman convinced me that they are reasonably solid now and with the light useage and short season up here, it should last me the rest of my boating career. Did you expect the salesman to convince you of anything else? I would never own an I/O for sal****er use on any boat. The exhaust manifold should be pretty easy to switch out on that inline 4. Very accessible, and only one of them. I had to replace mine, on the 5.7L, after about seven years. But, if I had the choice, I'd take the outboard. Either way he'll have to flush it after every trip. Keeping the boat in the driveway makes flushing much more handy then trying to find a wash rack somewhere. You are not really is salt water tho, The upper bay and the river is barely brackish at 10 ppt or less, much less up near DC or Annapolis. I have caught small mouth Bass on Haines Point. (down near where that "crawling out of the ground" sculpture used to be.) |
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John H.
- show quoted text - "But almost all of my fishing was between Deale and the Patuxent. Only fishing in the Potomac was for catfish in the channel with grandkids. The extra salt may mean a new exhaust manifold sooner...five years, maybe? But, it appeas very easy to replace on that four. And it looks like they run less than $400. On the V8, they were a bitch, and much more expensive, of course." ....and I was worried about the bellows rotting out! Salesman said it should last 15 years. A new exhaust manifold every five years doesn't appeal to me. You'd think they would come up with a better material. I've never owned an inboard/outboard and I am a bit leary about it. I'd better start reading up on how the engine cooling system works and how much routine maintenance is required. Already I can see that the optional 23" deep swim platform is going to make flushing the lower end a bit harder. The idea is that platform will make it easier for the dog to reboard after swimming. The 170BR with outboard motor has a very narrow reboarding spot next to the outboard well. |
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 05:03:47 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
John H. - show quoted text - "But almost all of my fishing was between Deale and the Patuxent. Only fishing in the Potomac was for catfish in the channel with grandkids. The extra salt may mean a new exhaust manifold sooner...five years, maybe? But, it appeas very easy to replace on that four. And it looks like they run less than $400. On the V8, they were a bitch, and much more expensive, of course." ...and I was worried about the bellows rotting out! Salesman said it should last 15 years. A new exhaust manifold every five years doesn't appeal to me. You'd think they would come up with a better material. I've never owned an inboard/outboard and I am a bit leary about it. I'd better start reading up on how the engine cooling system works and how much routine maintenance is required. Already I can see that the optional 23" deep swim platform is going to make flushing the lower end a bit harder. The idea is that platform will make it easier for the dog to reboard after swimming. The 170BR with outboard motor has a very narrow reboarding spot next to the outboard well. Well, you'd best adapt to the extra difficulty, 'cause you'll want to flush it every time you use it. Do they have a hose connection on them now, or will you have to get a set of muffs? If muffs, don't skimp. Get good ones that fit snugly. My I/O boat was 11 years old when I traded it in, and I'd put new manifolds on it at about the 9-10 year mark, not seven as I'd said earlier. I did have mine magnaflux tested about the 7 year mark. That was worthwhile, but luckily I had a son-in-law who had it done for me - free. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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John H.
- show quoted text - "Well, you'd best adapt to the extra difficulty, 'cause you'll want to flush it every time you use it. Do they have a hose connection on them now, or will you have to get a set of muffs? If muffs, don't skimp. Get good ones that fit snugly. My I/O boat was 11 years old when I traded it in, and I'd put new manifolds on it at about the 9-10 year mark, not seven as I'd said earlier. I did have mine magnaflux tested about the 7 year mark. That was worthwhile, but luckily I had a son-in-law who had it done for me - free." I guess I can skip the flushing when boating on freshwater lakes...as I do with the Mercury 60 Big Foot. I much prefer salt ot brackish water and I estimate I'll be flushing 75 per cent of the time. My current outboard does have the hose connection so I flush it both ways. I have two sets of muffs. The newer version is the one I saw the dealer use so I bought it at a local Marine store. It has the thin metal rod that passes through the inlet holes and out the other side to help snug the rubber cups up. Sometimes you have to fiddle a bit more with it and that will make it worse reaching under that platform. Might have to dig out my garage creeper to get down there. Did your boat spend many nights on the water or was it loaded back on the trailer every time? |
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10:38 AMTrue North John H. - show quoted text - "Well, you'd best adapt to the extra difficulty, 'cause you'll want to flush it every time you use it. Do they have a hose connection on them now, or will you have to get a set of muffs? If muffs, don't skimp. Get good ones that fit snugly. My I/O boat was 11 years old when I traded it in, and I'd put new manifolds on it at about the 9-10 year mark, not seven as I'd said earlier. I did have mine magnaflux tested about the 7 year mark. That was worthwhile, but luckily I had a son-in-law who had it done for me - free." I guess I can skip the flushing when boating on freshwater lakes...as I do with the Mercury 60 Big Foot. I much prefer salt ot brackish water and I estimate I'll be flushing 75 per cent of the time. My current outboard does have the hose connection so I flush it both ways. I have two sets of muffs. The newer version is the one I saw the dealer use so I bought it at a local Marine store. It has the thin metal rod that passes through the inlet holes and out the other side to help snug the rubber cups up. Sometimes you have to fiddle a bit more with it and that will make it worse reaching under that platform. Might have to dig out my garage creeper to get down there. Did your boat spend many nights on the water or was it loaded back on the trailer every time? ------- Don, even on fresh water it doesn't hurt to occasionall flush the system to get what ever stuff might settle inside. |
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On 2/22/2016 8:03 AM, True North wrote:
....and I was worried about the bellows rotting out! Salesman said it should last 15 years. Caveat: salesmen lie!!!!!!!!!! |
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Tim
10:38 AMTrue North - show quoted text - ------- "Don, even on fresh water it doesn't hurt to occasionall flush the system to get what ever stuff might settle inside." That sounds like good advice Tim. Especially in areas where the water may be silted or not pristine. |
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On 2/22/2016 11:54 AM, Tim wrote:
10:38 AMTrue North John H. - show quoted text - "Well, you'd best adapt to the extra difficulty, 'cause you'll want to flush it every time you use it. Do they have a hose connection on them now, or will you have to get a set of muffs? If muffs, don't skimp. Get good ones that fit snugly. My I/O boat was 11 years old when I traded it in, and I'd put new manifolds on it at about the 9-10 year mark, not seven as I'd said earlier. I did have mine magnaflux tested about the 7 year mark. That was worthwhile, but luckily I had a son-in-law who had it done for me - free." I guess I can skip the flushing when boating on freshwater lakes...as I do with the Mercury 60 Big Foot. I much prefer salt ot brackish water and I estimate I'll be flushing 75 per cent of the time. My current outboard does have the hose connection so I flush it both ways. I have two sets of muffs. The newer version is the one I saw the dealer use so I bought it at a local Marine store. It has the thin metal rod that passes through the inlet holes and out the other side to help snug the rubber cups up. Sometimes you have to fiddle a bit more with it and that will make it worse reaching under that platform. Might have to dig out my garage creeper to get down there. Did your boat spend many nights on the water or was it loaded back on the trailer every time? ------- Don, even on fresh water it doesn't hurt to occasionall flush the system to get what ever stuff might settle inside. Don't you have to flush out the zebra mussel seeds before they grow and clog stuff up? |
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On 2/20/2016 4:47 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/20/16 12:47 PM, True North wrote: ...and there are two free public ramps that I could walk to and a couple more within a 18 minute drive. If you talk about a 30 minute drive you can add maybe four more. Some are iffy at low tide and some don't have a raft next to launch ramp. If you don't mind paying you can add even more at the local yacht clubs. Anyway, it's official...I signed on the dotted line. Maybe the spirit of Skipper can look out for me. Congrats! Ah, Skipper...about the only right-winger who ever posted here who actually could turn a phrase, write decently and tell interesting tales about his boating "adventures." Ah, you admire him because he had the skills you don't. |
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 05:03:47 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "But almost all of my fishing was between Deale and the Patuxent. Only fishing in the Potomac was for catfish in the channel with grandkids. The extra salt may mean a new exhaust manifold sooner...five years, maybe? But, it appeas very easy to replace on that four. And it looks like they run less than $400. On the V8, they were a bitch, and much more expensive, of course." ...and I was worried about the bellows rotting out! Salesman said it should last 15 years. A new exhaust manifold every five years doesn't appeal to me. You'd think they would come up with a better material. I've never owned an inboard/outboard and I am a bit leary about it. I'd better start reading up on how the engine cooling system works and how much routine maintenance is required. Already I can see that the optional 23" deep swim platform is going to make flushing the lower end a bit harder. The idea is that platform will make it easier for the dog to reboard after swimming. The 170BR with outboard motor has a very narrow reboarding spot next to the outboard well. Most of the "I/O problems" get mitigated somewhat when you are on a trailer. Sitting in the water is trouble. A little bellows leak that your bilge pump handles on a day trip is a sunk boat if it is sitting in the water. The LU will stay wet too so you may end up with all the problems that entails. Again, up on the trailer, no sweat. They have a real bad rep in Florida. |
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