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On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 19:53:39 -0500, Alex wrote:
Thanks. My points of reference these days remain my electrostatics and a friend's setup with genuine Klipschhorns. Sure. He heard that word from Luddite. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! I'm sure he did. He can't invent his possessions without the help of others or Google. === I wish he'd tell us again about the imaginary Hatteras sportfish. That was some fine boat and I'll bet he misses it. His neighbors on that run down street in Jacksonville must have been impressed with it also. |
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On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals. For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out, faithfully reproduced, of course. Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal, speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a "East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush" sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll and "surf" music that originated on the west coast. In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and eventually Bose in 1968. Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels. |
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On 2/25/16 8:16 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? Please show me where I ever made such a statement, or is that just more Krausescheiße? I will say that there are some small expensive speakers that deliver better sound than some big expensive speakers. Size and cost matters to you narcissists, but listening enjoyment matters to most normal people. Of course, listening enjoyment doesn't bestow 'bragging rights' which is something you sorely need. That's a shame. I doubt a Bach organ fugue played on and recorded off a serious pipe organ sounds better on a small speaker than on a large speaker, assuming the speakers are of excellent quality. A small speaker, no matter the equalization, is not going to be able to properly reproduce and present the bass notes played by the pedals. I know that because I used to carry a CD when shopping for speakers, and on your Bose 901s, which I once tried out at Myer-Emco, I believe, the pedal notes sounded like farts. |
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Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote: There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico. Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games. "You forgot Greenland and about three dozen other countries in North America, dummy." OK dummy...list those three dozen countries that are in North America. Does the heat down there fry everyone's brain or are you just a weak link? |
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On 2/25/2016 8:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 8:16 PM, John H. wrote: On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 6:59:01 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? Please show me where I ever made such a statement, or is that just more Krausescheiße? I will say that there are some small expensive speakers that deliver better sound than some big expensive speakers. Size and cost matters to you narcissists, but listening enjoyment matters to most normal people. Of course, listening enjoyment doesn't bestow 'bragging rights' which is something you sorely need. That's a shame. I doubt a Bach organ fugue played on and recorded off a serious pipe organ sounds better on a small speaker than on a large speaker, assuming the speakers are of excellent quality. A small speaker, no matter the equalization, is not going to be able to properly reproduce and present the bass notes played by the pedals. I know that because I used to carry a CD when shopping for speakers, and on your Bose 901s, which I once tried out at Myer-Emco, I believe, the pedal notes sounded like farts. I don't know of any speaker ... large or small, expensive or not, that can accurately reproduce "lifelike" bass pedals tones of a pipe organ and that includes your maggies. A good sized, powered subwoofer might helps at low volumes but it really doesn't matter anyway because the recording of the pipe organ can't contain the full, "lifelike" tones to begin with. You are trying to reproduce something that isn't there. The system I had at the guitar shop's performance stage consisted of a pair of powered JBL speakers (700 watts each) that had horns, midrange speakers and 15" woofers. In addition, the system had two, 18" powered JBL subwoofers at 1000 watts each. They wouldn't be able to accurately reproduce the "lifelike", full range and intensity of a pipe organ either. I had a B3 Hammond with Leslie on the stage that was "mike'd" to the mixing board which, in turn, fed the audio to the JBL mains and subs. Did a decent job but it's still not a pipe organ. |
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On 2/25/2016 8:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals. For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out, faithfully reproduced, of course. Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal, speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a "East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush" sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll and "surf" music that originated on the west coast. In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and eventually Bose in 1968. Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels. Hmmm. You might be wasting your time and space in your living room with those big maggies then. They have to be driven fairly hard to accurately produce a "lifelike" sound. Maybe you'd be better off with a good set of bookshelf speakers. Bowers & Wilkins 600 series come immediately to mind. |
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 02:41:25 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/25/2016 8:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 8:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/25/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? It really depends on what kind of music you typically listen to. For example, the speakers you like and listen to have an "airy" sound to them that are ideal for classical music and for lifelike reproduction of acoustic instruments (guitar, etc.) along with vocals. However, they are not that great for the lifelike reproduction of hard rock with loud electric guitars running through distortion pedals and piercing vocals. For that, any cheap system works just fine. Trash in = Trash out, faithfully reproduced, of course. Back in the late 50's and early 60's as "hi-fi" became a big deal, speakers became generally categorized as being a "West Coast Sound" or a "East Coast Sound". West coast speakers were brighter sounding, some using horns instead of a paper mid-range driver whereas East coast speakers were softer sounding in the mids, producing a more "lush" sound. I suppose the reason was the growing popularity of rock and roll and "surf" music that originated on the west coast. In those days JBL was probably the leader in the "west coast" speaker sound. East coast speakers included Jensen, Electro-voice, Advent and eventually Bose in 1968. Never been a fan of most of what is called "hard rock" music. Plus, I don't listen to the music I like at really loud levels. Hmmm. You might be wasting your time and space in your living room with those big maggies then. They have to be driven fairly hard to accurately produce a "lifelike" sound. Maybe you'd be better off with a good set of bookshelf speakers. Bowers & Wilkins 600 series come immediately to mind. When Harry goes to live performances he asks them to keep the volume down. That way he can say his 'big maggies' (if he actually has any, which I doubt) match the sound of the orchestra. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns! |
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On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 2:03:38 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2016 11:40 PM, wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 18:58:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/25/16 6:32 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 17:59:15 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote: He must've been getting warm. The name-calling has crescendoed. It's that damn fake set of Klipschorns that's got him ****ed. Damn, if the label isn't even spelled correctly, you'd think they'd be able to recognize some not-so-genuine Klipschorns. -- This from a moron who believe expensive little speakers deliver more lifelike sound than expensive big speakers. Are there no limits to your ignorance, JohnnyTrash? Everyone is getting better sound out of small speakers these days. If you are not trying to fill a football stadium with sound, you can use speakers you can hold in one hand. You just hit the nail on the head. Harry is living in the audio world of the 1960's and 1970's when "big" was always better. Some people confuse quality with volume |
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