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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 4:09:41 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2016 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5,
wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably
have
had a better feel for what was going on.

The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me
Another
One" Explorer so it could get exciting.

About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up
from
your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at
several
brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She
ending up
liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car,
well-made, nice
ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs,
since
she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine.

If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position
where I
don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look
for a
small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of
looking or
researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as
long as
it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot
of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller
skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it.

Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much
about
them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is
that
they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some
reason.

===

The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's
just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats.
Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven.

My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I
didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus
LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger,
especially on a long trip.

She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've
had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love
them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro
system.

How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having
some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars.

For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available
at the BMW dealership.
Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were
traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially
during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place.

The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and
long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500
miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you
had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any
violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could
point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go
through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many
computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same
year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They
lied.

BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about
them that make me happy not to have one.

I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German
cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a
new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of
service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less
gimmicky.

Unless things have changed (and hopefully they have not) Porsche has
seemed to continue the spirit and heritage of a true, high performance
sports car. Even with modern changes like a water cooled engine and all
wheel drive the one I had was still a blast to drive and handled like no
other car I've ever driven. Still felt like a sports car even at 30
mph. The BMW's are refined and nice but, as you say, have become way
too complex and software dependent.

I loved my Boxster. Great car. I guy I know just bought a Cayman GT4. Serious bad-assed car. He also bought a Ferrari 308... the Magnum PI car. It has 24k miles on it. He tried to hand me they keys, but I declined. Between the gated shifter and getting in/out of it (it's tiny and LOW), I knew better. Cool car, though. This guy bought a bunch of Microsoft IPO, and I suspect he's cashing it in now. Good for him!

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