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Wives and Guns
Not a good mix, evidently... The new report from Everytown for Gun Safety and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense: “Guns and Violence Against Women – America’s Uniquely Lethal Domestic Abuse Problem” opens with a tragically unsurprising story: a woman who’d been abused by her husband for years sought and received a restraining order. While this should, under federal law, have prevented him from buying a firearm, the man exploited a loophole and bought a gun from an unlicensed online seller, avoiding a background check. Three days later, he shot and killed his wife. As the report explains, and common sense would indicate, preventing abusers from obtaining (or keeping) firearms is an evidence-based way to protect women. The federal government and many states have enacted laws to reflect this reality, but gaps and loopholes make it far too easy for abusers to access guns – and women suffer the consequences. A survey of women living in California domestic violence shelters, for example, showed that about two-thirds of the women who lived in households with guns reported that their partner had used the gun against them, usually by threatening to shoot or kill her. And California is not unusual. Research compiled by Everytown shows: - American women are 11 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than women in any other developed country. - The presence of a gun in a domestic violence situation makes it five times more likely that a woman will be murdered. - More than half of women murdered with guns in the U.S. in 2010 – at least 54 percent – were killed by intimate partners or family members. - Over the past 25 years, more intimate partner homicides in the U.S. have been committed with guns than with all other weapons combined. This is also true for mass shootings: an Everytown analysis of every mass shooting in the U.S. between January 2009 and June 2014 determined that in 57 percent (61 of 107 incidents), the shooter killed an intimate partner or family member. |
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote:
Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) |
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Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Maybe the wife should learn to shoot the abusive husbands firearms. Less abusive husbands. |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:51:58 -0500, Califbill wrote:
Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Maybe the wife should learn to shoot the abusive husbands firearms. Less abusive husbands. Sounds reasonable to me. Since my wife learned to shoot, I've not thought about spousal abuse one time! |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. |
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:44:15 -0700, jps wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. Guess what, jps - many Muslims have been lording over, threatening, and even killing women to keep them cowed into submission - without guns. I've never seen you make a comment about that. Not one time. |
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On 6/24/14, 4:26 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:44:15 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. Guess what, jps - many Muslims have been lording over, threatening, and even killing women to keep them cowed into submission - without guns. I've never seen you make a comment about that. Not one time. Your fundie christians are working overtime to keep women subservient. It's been all over the news in the last few months. So far as I know, they haven't been killing women in mass numbers yet, but I'm sure they'll get to it...its the crazy fundie way. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:31:52 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/24/14, 4:26 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:44:15 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. Guess what, jps - many Muslims have been lording over, threatening, and even killing women to keep them cowed into submission - without guns. I've never seen you make a comment about that. Not one time. Your fundie christians are working overtime to keep women subservient. It's been all over the news in the last few months. So far as I know, they haven't been killing women in mass numbers yet, but I'm sure they'll get to it...its the crazy fundie way. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! Your lines made no sense at all. I suppose your madame Pelosi farted causing your fingers to tap that out. |
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On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:31:52 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/24/14, 4:26 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:44:15 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. Guess what, jps - many Muslims have been lording over, threatening, and even killing women to keep them cowed into submission - without guns. I've never seen you make a comment about that. Not one time. Your fundie christians are working overtime to keep women subservient. It's been all over the news in the last few months. So far as I know, they haven't been killing women in mass numbers yet, but I'm sure they'll get to it...its the crazy fundie way. wow Harry, when has John been hiring christian fundies, especially those who will work overtime? I need to find me some of those because I have a lot of yard work to do up at our farm. Can you hire them through a temp agency? |
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On 6/24/2014 4:26 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 10:44:15 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 11:10:44 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 17:49:54 -0700, jps wrote: Not a good mix, evidently... So what's your solution? Are liberals part of the problem also, or is it just conservatives? Haven't seen you voice any opinions about Krause's arsenal. (Although it does seem to be getting smaller every day! He must be trying to appease y'all.) Why must your mind reduce this to liberals vs. conservatives? Does everything have to exist in black and white for it to make sense? I don't really give a **** if you or Harry have guns, you're not my concern. It's the wide distribution and lack of sales/storage control and lack of a mental issues/domestic violence policy that cause me concern. It doesn't surprised me that brain-stem driven idiots are freaked out about the government having too much control but show absolutely no concern for women being lorded over and threatened by their husbands using guns as a means of terror to cow them into submission. Makes perfect sense. Guess what, jps - many Muslims have been lording over, threatening, and even killing women to keep them cowed into submission - without guns. I've never seen you make a comment about that. Not one time. That doesn't score you points at the local pinky raising party |
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