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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. |
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On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. |
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On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 2:04:40 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. |
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On 1/15/2016 2:54 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 2:04:40 PM UTC-5, Its Me wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. There's a dealership 20 minutes away so I'm good in that respect, and there's an independent shop that specializes in German cars 5 minutes from my work. The A6 uses Mobile 1 synthetic which is readily available. I took a quick look, and while it's true that BMW sells a private brand "BMW" oil, the manual for an M5 (or somewhere in the documentation) has an extensive list of oils that are approved to be used in the M5. It even says at the bottom that "BMW recommends Castrol". http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765520 I got curious and did a little more digging. While the above is true for the latest models, the one you had required 10w-60 full synthetic, and there are only a few suppliers of that. Castrol and Redline have it, and BMW, of course. The BMW oil is probably just Castrol in a different bottle. That was it. 10-60 synthetic. At the time (2006) nobody other than BMW carried it. I remember that using oil was another thing I couldn't quite get used to in a brand new car. I'd start it up and it would blow blue smoke for a sec or two. BMW said it was "normal" due to the high performance nature of the engine. In 2006 they were rated at 500hp. Don't know what they are rated at now. |
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On 1/15/2016 2:04 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 1:35:21 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. There's a dealership 20 minutes away so I'm good in that respect, and there's an independent shop that specializes in German cars 5 minutes from my work. The A6 uses Mobile 1 synthetic which is readily available. I took a quick look, and while it's true that BMW sells a private brand "BMW" oil, the manual for an M5 (or somewhere in the documentation) has an extensive list of oils that are approved to be used in the M5. It even says at the bottom that "BMW recommends Castrol". http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765520 Perhaps things have changed but I recall that mine called for a weird weight that you couldn't find anywhere other than a BMW dealer. I think it was 10w-60w. No one other than BMW carried it or even heard of it. |
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. |
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On 1/15/16 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:35:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 1:12 PM, wrote: On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 12:28:15 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:47:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/15/2016 11:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/15/16 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 05:05:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: Yup..if she was driving a basic compact car she would probably have had a better feel for what was going on. The Mountaineer is basically the same vehicle as the "Roll Me Another One" Explorer so it could get exciting. About six months ago, we got my wife a new car, maybe one step up from your basic compact. We shopped five or six dealers, looking at several brands of four door sedans, including two "fancy lines." She ending up liking the Toyota Camry best because "it's a simple car, well-made, nice ride, and peppy." I was pretty surprised at how well it performs, since she opted for the naturally aspirated four cylinder engine. If this house deal goes through and I find myself in a position where I don't need a big truck for plowing or towing, I'll probably look for a small, economical car like the Camry. Haven't done a lot of looking or researching yet but I wouldn't mind getting something smaller as long as it is comfortable. The Mini Cooper I had a year or so ago was a lot of fun to drive but it was like riding on a high performance roller skate. I can't imagine taking a long distance trip in it. Kinda like the looks of the Ford Fusion also but don't know much about them. Only problem with the imports ... Toyota, Nissan, etc., is that they all look the same to me. And most I see are grey for some reason. === The most comfortable car we've ever owned is my wife's M-B E320. It's just super in every way - smooth, quiet, powerful and great seats. Consumer Reports rated it as one of the best cars they've ever driven. My wife had one for a company car for a while. She liked it, but I didn't. Too soft and no fun to drive. Her favorite was the Lexus LS460. I hated driving it, but it was nice to be a passenger, especially on a long trip. She had an A6 Quattro, and that's what introduced me to them. I've had two since then, currently still driving the second one. Love them. Comfortable, sporty, quick, and sure-footed with the quattro system. How's the service availability? That's one thing I learned about having some of the nicer, performance orientated, foreign made cars. For example, the BMW M5 called for special oil that was only available at the BMW dealership. Wasn't a big deal since oil changes were covered but if you were traveling and needed a quart (the M5 *did* use some oil, especially during break in) you would have to hunt for a BMW service place. The other thing I disliked about the BMW M5 was the very specific and long break in procedure. RPM was limited for the first 1,200 or 1,500 miles and then a gradual allowance to start "getting on it" until you had about 3,000 miles on it. The computer in the car recorded any violations of the procedure so, in the event of a problem, they could point their finger at you. Biggest problem for me was I had to go through this twice. They took back the first M5 I had due to many computer software problems. They assured me that the second one (same year but built 7 months later) had all the issues sorted out. They lied. BMWs seem a bit finicky to me. There are lots of things I hear about them that make me happy not to have one. I had a new BMW, a 2002ti, back in the good old days before these German cars became over-engineered and overly complicated. I wouldn't touch a new BMW or Audi these days because of their complexity and the price of service and spare parts. They're just too clever. The Porsches seem less gimmicky. |
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