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On 12/15/2015 9:23 AM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze - show quoted text - "Why are you whining about government employment? Weren't you a government employee most of your working life? Wasn't your wife? Didn't your wife get health plan benefits from an employee union? You're biting the hands that fed you, eh?" The John got his......to 'ell with anyone else. What did John get that you didn't? |
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On 12/15/2015 1:02 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/15/2015 9:23 AM, True North wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - "Why are you whining about government employment? Weren't you a government employee most of your working life? Wasn't your wife? Didn't your wife get health plan benefits from an employee union? You're biting the hands that fed you, eh?" The John got his......to 'ell with anyone else. What did John get that you didn't? John didn't "get" anything. He earned it, based on the contract he had for his service. Sorta like a union. |
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On 12/15/2015 1:20 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 12/15/2015 1:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/15/2015 12:48 PM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:44:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/15/2015 10:40 AM, John H. wrote: Any parent could bring their kids to an RC field and get a 'quickie' course for their kids, along with some buddy-boxed 'stick time'. Responsible parents, buying for their kids, might do so. But again, we're not talking responsible adults here. The FAA agrees with you. The FAA is used to dealing with professionals and dedicated amateurs. They are unprepared to deal with the rabble that is buying the drones. I am still reminded of the CB radio craze and the FCC's inability to really regulate much of any of it. They finally just walked away. CB pretty much just died from it's own weight. It became unusable. I don't see that happening with drones although some of the novelty might wear off after you have seen all of your neighbors naked. Oh the horror! The people doing the most complaining of drones operated by hobbyists are private and commercial pilots. They are the ones pushing the FAA for the enforcement of regulations regarding their use. The regulations exist. Registration is an attempt to further enforcement. I can attest from experience that a sudden, unexpected distraction at a critical moment in your approach to landing could cause an accident. Birds are a problem (especially seagulls in our area). So are idiots flying drones near an airport. Have there been any reports, in your area, of police departments and other government agencies recently acquiring Drones? Not sure what you are asking. Acquiring for their use or confiscating from hobbyists for breaking a FAA regulation? Anyway, the answer ... for either ... is "no". |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:11:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/15/2015 12:48 PM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:44:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/15/2015 10:40 AM, John H. wrote: Any parent could bring their kids to an RC field and get a 'quickie' course for their kids, along with some buddy-boxed 'stick time'. Responsible parents, buying for their kids, might do so. But again, we're not talking responsible adults here. The FAA agrees with you. The FAA is used to dealing with professionals and dedicated amateurs. They are unprepared to deal with the rabble that is buying the drones. I am still reminded of the CB radio craze and the FCC's inability to really regulate much of any of it. They finally just walked away. CB pretty much just died from it's own weight. It became unusable. I don't see that happening with drones although some of the novelty might wear off after you have seen all of your neighbors naked. Oh the horror! The people doing the most complaining of drones operated by hobbyists are private and commercial pilots. They are the ones pushing the FAA for the enforcement of regulations regarding their use. The regulations exist. Registration is an attempt to further enforcement. I can attest from experience that a sudden, unexpected distraction at a critical moment in your approach to landing could cause an accident. Birds are a problem (especially seagulls in our area). So are idiots flying drones near an airport. I played golf with a pilot Sunday. He's concerned about drones, but thinks a bigger problem is lasers. He said he knows several pilots who've quit flying because of lasers. A drone could definitely damage an engine, but it's doubtful whether it could bring a plane down. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 11:15:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/15/2015 11:03 AM, wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:20:20 -0600, Boating All Out wrote: In article Oo6dnX9gZfcDgO3LnZ2dnUU7- , says... The concern is that a million or more inexpensive "drones" will be given as Christmas presents next week and the FAA anticipates many potential problems with people using them who are not familiar with their operation or restrictions. The FAA isn't the only government agency who is concerned. British Columbia has also issued concerns due to several close calls involving aircraft and drones in Canada. Similar regulations are in the works there. Did you happen to hear Joe Scarborough this morning, saying the Republican base have been "whiners" for at least the past 20 years? This is good example of that. The government reacts to the threat of commercial aircraft being brought down, with 100's of deaths. "Republicans" and libertarians whine about it. And so it goes. The complaint is about ineffective bureaucracy. How does sending the government $5 and getting a registration number prevent someone from flying a drone near the airport? Even if the person did put the number somewhere on the drone and it survived the crash in a condition that it could still be read (the method of numbering is up to the owner), the fine is $5000 and the plane still crashed. That is a huge bureaucracy that did absolutely nothing to advance safety. I don't think you are correct about the "$5,000" fine. The penalties can be much higher than that, including criminal prosecution. Here's the link to the FAQ's again regarding this new regulation: https://www.faa.gov/uas/registration/faqs/ That was what I heard the FAA guy say on TV. I suppose that is the normal amount they sue for. (It is really a civil case unless there is an accompanying crime). |
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