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Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
The U.S. Supreme Court steered clear of a politically charged fight over
gun rights, turning away a challenge to a law banning semi-automatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines in a Chicago suburb. The vote was 7-2 to not hear the case. The justices left intact a federal appeals court decision that said the Highland Park, Illinois, restrictions don’t infringe on the constitutional right to bear arms. The appeals court said residents have plenty of legal self-defense options, including handguns and other types of long guns. - - - I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle.
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On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. |
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 10:02:38 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
The U.S. Supreme Court steered clear of a politically charged fight over gun rights, turning away a challenge to a law banning semi-automatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines in a Chicago suburb. The vote was 7-2 to not hear the case. The justices left intact a federal appeals court decision that said the Highland Park, Illinois, restrictions don't infringe on the constitutional right to bear arms. The appeals court said residents have plenty of legal self-defense options, including handguns and other types of long guns. - - - I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. Sorry to hear you were so troubled. What rifle is it that you are using as a replacement? I assume your aversion to the assault rifles caused you to destroy the weapon. Surely you didn't sell it, allowing it to be used as an 'assoult rifle' by someone else! |
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On 12/7/15 10:53 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 10:02:38 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: The U.S. Supreme Court steered clear of a politically charged fight over gun rights, turning away a challenge to a law banning semi-automatic assault weapons and large-capacity magazines in a Chicago suburb. The vote was 7-2 to not hear the case. The justices left intact a federal appeals court decision that said the Highland Park, Illinois, restrictions don't infringe on the constitutional right to bear arms. The appeals court said residents have plenty of legal self-defense options, including handguns and other types of long guns. - - - I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. Sorry to hear you were so troubled. What rifle is it that you are using as a replacement? I assume your aversion to the assault rifles caused you to destroy the weapon. Surely you didn't sell it, allowing it to be used as an 'assoult rifle' by someone else! "I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15..." |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. More like an HO gauge M14 |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:55:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom of the rifle. Most of those "internet" full auto conversions take a reliable gun and make it junk ... illegal junk. There is more to making a real selective fire weapon that shaving down the sear and trying to prevent the gun from firing before it goes all the way into battery. I saw one that actually propped the firing pin extended and fired from an open bolt with the trigger just holding the bolt open like an M2 grease gun. (It was for an old Marlin SA .22 rifle that already had the trigger/bolt interlocked.) |
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom of the rifle. That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns. |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 13:31:50 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom of the rifle. That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns. They were popular with the cops for a while and Ruger even sold them "selective fire" to some departments. My friend in Md had one in stainless that came from a southern sheriff's office. After a while, I guess they just didn't look "rambo" enough for those SWAT guys and they went with the AR. It may have started when the military have them a bunch of M-16s. |
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On 12/7/15 2:19 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:48:50 -0800 (PST), John H wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. More like an HO gauge M14 Well, "S" gauge, maybe. :) |
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On 12/7/15 4:31 PM, John H wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:55:44 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 12:48 PM, John H wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 12:07:37 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. Ah, a 'stealth' AR-15. There you go. Actually, I didn't know this at the time I got it, but apparently there are videos and instructions readily available to turn the Mini 14 into a full auto rifle. Well, illegalities aside, that's not for me. I hate to waste ammo, considering decent rounds are 29 cents each. In fact, I use five round mags only. They fit flush to the bottom of the rifle. That gun demonstrates the stupidity of many of the 'assault rifle' laws. It has all the capabilities of the AR15 style guns. Pretty much, though not as easy to overcustomize. I like the Mini now because it looks and operates more like a traditional semi-auto rifle, and is a couple of pounds lighter than a traditional good quality AR15. The "trigger job" I had done on mine makes a big difference in terms of my ability to control, aim, and hit targets. But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* ! |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* ! Sounds like you need another can. Maybe you should have bought one that would handle the .223 and you could still use it with your .22rf .... assuming you didn't ;-) |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:48:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 7:45 PM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:52:38 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: But, dayum, .223 rounds are *loud* ! Sounds like you need another can. Maybe you should have bought one that would handle the .223 and you could still use it with your .22rf ... assuming you didn't ;-) I watched a couple of vids of "silenced" .223 rifles...they aren't that silent and apparently if you buy subsonic .223 rounds, they tend to be wimpy. Now, .300 Blackout...that's another matter. :) Any center fire SS round will be far from silent but the profile of the sound usually allows shooting without ear protection. Most of the sonic crack is actually down range. That is why snipers like them. You know there was a shot but it is loudest when it is next to you so it is hard to figure where it came from. ..22 Rim fires don't really have that much crack so it is not that noticeable. The suppressor the guy I knew had really was not that great in the house tho because there was so much other noise related to the shot that it was still very loud. The bullet going into the trap was a lot of it. He was very disappointed until we went out back and fired a few down into the bank behind the house. |
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On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... |
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:08:12 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. === Not if you do it in cold weather. There's something about exertion in the cold that seems to bring on heart attacks. |
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On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:35:58 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:08:12 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. === Not if you do it in cold weather. There's something about exertion in the cold that seems to bring on heart attacks. In the bitter cold, yes It's in the high 40 low 50s here which isn't bad, pretty comfortable actually. If it's really cold and I have to go out I'll wear some kind of make... probably. |
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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:07:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. For what it's worth, the Ruger Mini 14 *is* on the Highland Park list of banned assault weapons. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 12/8/15 8:55 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:07:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. For what it's worth, the Ruger Mini 14 *is* on the Highland Park list of banned assault weapons. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. We have a crazy quilt of gun regulations. In Maryland, as has often been mentioned, if you buy a new AR15 type rifle, it has to have what is called a "heavy barrel," or HBAR. But there are no restrictions on the purchase of an AR10, a far more deadly black rifle that fires the 30 caliber military round. The Ruger Mini 14 is available here in Maryland without restriction, as is the Mini 30, which fires the "AK" round. |
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:10:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote: On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:35:58 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:08:12 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. === Not if you do it in cold weather. There's something about exertion in the cold that seems to bring on heart attacks. In the bitter cold, yes It's in the high 40 low 50s here which isn't bad, pretty comfortable actually. If it's really cold and I have to go out I'll wear some kind of make... probably. === It's a ffffreeezing 58 here this morning. No snow however but it feels like there should be. |
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John H.
- show quoted text - "I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy." Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. Celebrate surviving a potential life threatening situation by killing something else. That seems so 'merican! |
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- show quoted text -
So walk slowly. Rabbit hunting need not be high on the exertion list. Shouldn't be any worse than a walk to the post office. - show quoted text - ...... John, rabbit hunting will be fine but we need a good hard frost to get rid of the sickly ones first. Tromping around the fence rows and brush piles is always good for the heart... |
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On 12/8/2015 9:10 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/8/15 8:55 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:07:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. For what it's worth, the Ruger Mini 14 *is* on the Highland Park list of banned assault weapons. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. We have a crazy quilt of gun regulations. In Maryland, as has often been mentioned, if you buy a new AR15 type rifle, it has to have what is called a "heavy barrel," or HBAR. But there are no restrictions on the purchase of an AR10, a far more deadly black rifle that fires the 30 caliber military round. The Ruger Mini 14 is available here in Maryland without restriction, as is the Mini 30, which fires the "AK" round. Just for giggles I tried to find out if the Ruger Mini 14 is Massachusetts compliant on the web. Bottom line is ... I don't have a clue. Some sources say yes, others say no. I'd have to call a gun shop I guess to find out for sure but since I am not in the market for one, I won't bother. Wacko laws here. Something about "evil features". It seems you can have no more than one "evil feature". A flash hider counts as one. If it threads onto the barrel, apparently the threads count as another. Even the permits that are issued don't make sense. When I first obtained a permit it was called a "Class A". Apparently that has changed. It's now simply called a "License to Carry" and is defined as: "Permits the purchase, possession, transportation and carrying of all large and non-large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices a well as ammunition. This is the only license that allows the carrying of concealed handguns-either loaded or unloaded." Yet, a magazine of any type that can hold more than ten rounds is illegal. So, what's the point in having the permit allow "large" capacity handguns and rifles? The MA law regarding "large capacity" is as follows: "A large-capacity firearm is defined as a semi-automatic handgun or rifle that is capable of accepting more than ten rounds, OR is a semi-automatic shotgun capable of accepting more than five shotgun shells, OR is an assault weapon. So, my permit says I can legally own an assault weapon with a 30 round magazine but another section of the MA law says both are illegal to own. |
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:15:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
John H. - show quoted text - "I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy." Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. Celebrate surviving a potential life threatening situation by killing something else. That seems so 'merican! I'm sure there is no hunting in Canada, right? Do you not eat meat? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:32:37 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
- show quoted text - So walk slowly. Rabbit hunting need not be high on the exertion list. Shouldn't be any worse than a walk to the post office. - show quoted text - ..... John, rabbit hunting will be fine but we need a good hard frost to get rid of the sickly ones first. Tromping around the fence rows and brush piles is always good for the heart... Yup, as I recall, hot summers caused a lot of worms in rabbits. We never hunted them much in the summer months either. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:15:07 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote: John H. - show quoted text - "I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy." Yeah...that makes a lot of sense. Celebrate surviving a potential life threatening situation by killing something else. That seems so 'merican! === Did your Canadian ancestors not hunt to survive? I'm pretty sure they did. And what about that delightful custom of clubbing baby seals to death that some of your countrymen seem to enjoy? |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
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Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:15:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: - show quoted text - === "Did your Canadian ancestors not hunt to survive? *I'm pretty sure they did. *And what about that delightful custom of clubbing baby seals to death that some of your countrymen seem to enjoy? " "seem to enjoy"??? They were harvesting the seals for their pelts...so they could sell same pelts and put food on the table for their families. |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:44:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 12/8/2015 9:10 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/8/15 8:55 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:07:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. For what it's worth, the Ruger Mini 14 *is* on the Highland Park list of banned assault weapons. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. We have a crazy quilt of gun regulations. In Maryland, as has often been mentioned, if you buy a new AR15 type rifle, it has to have what is called a "heavy barrel," or HBAR. But there are no restrictions on the purchase of an AR10, a far more deadly black rifle that fires the 30 caliber military round. The Ruger Mini 14 is available here in Maryland without restriction, as is the Mini 30, which fires the "AK" round. Just for giggles I tried to find out if the Ruger Mini 14 is Massachusetts compliant on the web. Bottom line is ... I don't have a clue. Some sources say yes, others say no. I'd have to call a gun shop I guess to find out for sure but since I am not in the market for one, I won't bother. Wacko laws here. Something about "evil features". It seems you can have no more than one "evil feature". A flash hider counts as one. If it threads onto the barrel, apparently the threads count as another. Even the permits that are issued don't make sense. When I first obtained a permit it was called a "Class A". Apparently that has changed. It's now simply called a "License to Carry" and is defined as: "Permits the purchase, possession, transportation and carrying of all large and non-large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices a well as ammunition. This is the only license that allows the carrying of concealed handguns-either loaded or unloaded." Yet, a magazine of any type that can hold more than ten rounds is illegal. So, what's the point in having the permit allow "large" capacity handguns and rifles? The MA law regarding "large capacity" is as follows: "A large-capacity firearm is defined as a semi-automatic handgun or rifle that is capable of accepting more than ten rounds, OR is a semi-automatic shotgun capable of accepting more than five shotgun shells, OR is an assault weapon. So, my permit says I can legally own an assault weapon with a 30 round magazine but another section of the MA law says both are illegal to own. I just spent a few minutes looking myself. Apparently, the newer ones must be banned, as there are 'pre-ban' ones for sale in MA. http://www.armslist.com/posts/455823...1981-stainless I couldn't find any listing of banned rifles in MA. You're right, convoluted as hell. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 07:08:08 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 06:15:07 -0800 (PST), True North wrote: - show quoted text - === "Did your Canadian ancestors not hunt to survive? *I'm pretty sure they did. *And what about that delightful custom of clubbing baby seals to death that some of your countrymen seem to enjoy? " "seem to enjoy"??? They were harvesting the seals for their pelts...so they could sell same pelts and put food on the table for their families. Gosh, like many folks do with rabbits. Do you eat meat, Don? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On 12/8/2015 10:20 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 09:44:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/8/2015 9:10 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/8/15 8:55 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:07:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 10:02:35 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I think I mentioned here I sold my "Assault Weapon," my Colt AR 15, some months ago. It was a fine rifle, but the more I thought about what it was, the more it troubled me to own it. I replaced it with a more traditional-looking rifle that handles the same round, and I actually prefer using it with small magazines. My M1A looks like a traditional rifle. It is not really an assault rifle tho because it is not selective fire and it shoots a full sized cartridge. Ballistically the 7.62x51 is pretty much identical to the 30-06. You can shoot the same bullets at the same velocities, particularly if you use SAAMI .308 loadings but the milspec "ball" round is about the same. My "replacement" for the Colt is a Ruger Mini 14 "Ranch", the one with a black "plastic" (the plastic has a fancier name, but it is plastic to me) stock. I put a scope mount rail on it, and for the moment I have a red dot sight on the rifle. The only modification I've made so far is to send the trigger assembly out for a "full trigger job" to smooth and lighten the action. It shoots the stockpile of .223 and 5.56 ammo I have. For what it's worth, the Ruger Mini 14 *is* on the Highland Park list of banned assault weapons. -- Ban idiots, not guns! I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. We have a crazy quilt of gun regulations. In Maryland, as has often been mentioned, if you buy a new AR15 type rifle, it has to have what is called a "heavy barrel," or HBAR. But there are no restrictions on the purchase of an AR10, a far more deadly black rifle that fires the 30 caliber military round. The Ruger Mini 14 is available here in Maryland without restriction, as is the Mini 30, which fires the "AK" round. Just for giggles I tried to find out if the Ruger Mini 14 is Massachusetts compliant on the web. Bottom line is ... I don't have a clue. Some sources say yes, others say no. I'd have to call a gun shop I guess to find out for sure but since I am not in the market for one, I won't bother. Wacko laws here. Something about "evil features". It seems you can have no more than one "evil feature". A flash hider counts as one. If it threads onto the barrel, apparently the threads count as another. Even the permits that are issued don't make sense. When I first obtained a permit it was called a "Class A". Apparently that has changed. It's now simply called a "License to Carry" and is defined as: "Permits the purchase, possession, transportation and carrying of all large and non-large-capacity handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices a well as ammunition. This is the only license that allows the carrying of concealed handguns-either loaded or unloaded." Yet, a magazine of any type that can hold more than ten rounds is illegal. So, what's the point in having the permit allow "large" capacity handguns and rifles? The MA law regarding "large capacity" is as follows: "A large-capacity firearm is defined as a semi-automatic handgun or rifle that is capable of accepting more than ten rounds, OR is a semi-automatic shotgun capable of accepting more than five shotgun shells, OR is an assault weapon. So, my permit says I can legally own an assault weapon with a 30 round magazine but another section of the MA law says both are illegal to own. I just spent a few minutes looking myself. Apparently, the newer ones must be banned, as there are 'pre-ban' ones for sale in MA. http://www.armslist.com/posts/455823...1981-stainless I couldn't find any listing of banned rifles in MA. You're right, convoluted as hell. "Pre-ban" in Massachusetts refers to firearms manufactured before 1998 when the gun laws were radically changed. You can legally buy or sell a "pre-ban" firearm here but the catch is this: The firearm must have always been owned by a MA resident who kept the gun in MA. Same with selling ... can only sell a "pre-ban" to another current MA resident. |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:02:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/8/2015 9:11 AM, wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:10:55 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:35:58 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:08:12 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. === Not if you do it in cold weather. There's something about exertion in the cold that seems to bring on heart attacks. In the bitter cold, yes It's in the high 40 low 50s here which isn't bad, pretty comfortable actually. If it's really cold and I have to go out I'll wear some kind of make... probably. === It's a ffffreeezing 58 here this morning. No snow however but it feels like there should be. Awwwwwe .... Walked out to the van yesterday morning and nearly fell on my ass due to the ice on the driveway. === Be careful, falls on ice are a leading cause of broken hips in the north east. As for me, it looks like I'm going to have to make the ultimate sacrifice and turn off the pool heater, much as I hate to do that. |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
On 12/8/2015 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 10:02:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/8/2015 9:11 AM, wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 05:10:55 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Tuesday, December 8, 2015 at 6:35:58 AM UTC-6, wrote: On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 07:08:12 -0500, John H. wrote: On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 03:56:43 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: On Monday, December 7, 2015 at 9:28:12 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/7/15 10:22 AM, Tim wrote: Harry this tells me that you got rid of a 50 yr of design assault rifle in leu of a 150 year old design assault rifle. Probably, but the replacement for the Colt looks like your run of the mill ordinary rifle. :) How are you feeling, by the way? On the road to recovery, I hope. Actually Im feeling rather well, thanks for asking. Yesterday, I went to the dr. for a follow up, and will start cardio-therapy at my local hospital next week. Still got a ways to go but the immediate dangers are over, at least that's the popular opinion... I would think some rabbit hunting would be good cardio-therapy. === Not if you do it in cold weather. There's something about exertion in the cold that seems to bring on heart attacks. In the bitter cold, yes It's in the high 40 low 50s here which isn't bad, pretty comfortable actually. If it's really cold and I have to go out I'll wear some kind of make... probably. === It's a ffffreeezing 58 here this morning. No snow however but it feels like there should be. Awwwwwe .... Walked out to the van yesterday morning and nearly fell on my ass due to the ice on the driveway. === Be careful, falls on ice are a leading cause of broken hips in the north east. As for me, it looks like I'm going to have to make the ultimate sacrifice and turn off the pool heater, much as I hate to do that. Yeah, that fog rising off the water is just $$ evaporating. Our pool has been winterized and covered since the middle of October. With any luck, we'll never see it opened again. |
Supremes let "Assault Weapon" ban stand
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