On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


.... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

===

Heh.

Of course the vast majority of boats don't do that either, for which
we are eternally grateful.

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 21:13:44 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

===

Heh.

Of course the vast majority of boats don't do that either, for which
we are eternally grateful.

I feel the same way about boats that can't run skinny ;-)

We have been pushing it lately poking around in that

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 22:36:56 -0500, wrote:

Sorry I was cleaning my keyboard and it went off.

I feel the same way about boats that can't run skinny ;-)

We have been pushing it lately poking around in that
.... area between Rocky Bay and the Mullock Creek channel. The cable
line went through there and I have been looking at the bottom they
tore up for DEP. That whole area is oysters and pretty shallow. I did
have to get out and push the other day.

It is real "boaty" here now and we are going up in the mangroves a lot
to get away from the crowd. Mud Creek is a nice poke.

http://gfretwell.com/aerials/clean%20map.tif

There are some nice looking fish back there but there are not that
many people who know how to get in or even that it exists.

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 16:42:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)

===

Interesting but they specify fresh water only. Sounds like good
advice based on my experiences with salted roads.

Probably not the ideal vessel for waves over 6 inches or so. :-)

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 16:42:40 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 20:29:23 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 3 Dec 2015 16:56:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I am not into the RV thing either but I can appreciate the reasons that
many are. The term "camper" or even "RV" is a misnomer for some of the
rigs people have. The larger, high quality ones are really rolling
homes and those who are into it enjoy traveling all over the country in
them. Certainly no more expensive (probably less) than a similar sized
boat to own, maintain and purchase fuel for and it's not restricted to
waterways only.


... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)

I notice they opened the video with a graphic that said "the lake".

You get that out in blue water and they will be looking for it next to
El Faro.

There was a thread going on one of the real boat boards about a guy
who modified his pontoon so he could park his camping trailer on it
and go out on the lake. I saw some early experiments and then I lost
track of the project. I seem to remember he launched the boat, then
nosed it up to the ramp and rolled the trailer on (using ramp ramps).

I don't know if he went happily on with his life or it failed.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:57:23 -0500, wrote:

... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)

I notice they opened the video with a graphic that said "the lake".

You get that out in blue water and they will be looking for it next to
El Faro.

There was a thread going on one of the real boat boards about a guy
who modified his pontoon so he could park his camping trailer on it
and go out on the lake. I saw some early experiments and then I lost
track of the project. I seem to remember he launched the boat, then
nosed it up to the ramp and rolled the trailer on (using ramp ramps).

I don't know if he went happily on with his life or it failed.

===

If you do that kind of project without some knowledge of naval
architecture, you are asking for a whole boat load of trouble. Red
neck engineering will only get you so far.

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 23:54:57 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:57:23 -0500, wrote:

... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)

I notice they opened the video with a graphic that said "the lake".

You get that out in blue water and they will be looking for it next to
El Faro.

There was a thread going on one of the real boat boards about a guy
who modified his pontoon so he could park his camping trailer on it
and go out on the lake. I saw some early experiments and then I lost
track of the project. I seem to remember he launched the boat, then
nosed it up to the ramp and rolled the trailer on (using ramp ramps).

I don't know if he went happily on with his life or it failed.

===

If you do that kind of project without some knowledge of naval
architecture, you are asking for a whole boat load of trouble. Red
neck engineering will only get you so far.

I see a lot of factory boats that look pretty tippy to me. ;-)

On Sat, 05 Dec 2015 00:25:46 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 23:54:57 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:57:23 -0500, wrote:

... But you are not going to the Bahamas or the West Indies in your
motor home ;-)

Bull****!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE

:)

I notice they opened the video with a graphic that said "the lake".

You get that out in blue water and they will be looking for it next to
El Faro.

There was a thread going on one of the real boat boards about a guy
who modified his pontoon so he could park his camping trailer on it
and go out on the lake. I saw some early experiments and then I lost
track of the project. I seem to remember he launched the boat, then
nosed it up to the ramp and rolled the trailer on (using ramp ramps).

I don't know if he went happily on with his life or it failed.

===

If you do that kind of project without some knowledge of naval
architecture, you are asking for a whole boat load of trouble. Red
neck engineering will only get you so far.

I see a lot of factory boats that look pretty tippy to me. ;-)

===

I agree but it really all depends on whether they carry their weight
down low or not. If a production boat develops a reputation for
stability problems the class action lawyers will be all over it. You
might recall the infamous flybridge cruiser that Bayliner built back
in the 80 or 90s. People would cram onto the flybridge just because
there was room up there, and everyone liked the view of course.
Unfortunately when you put the boat into a turn when loaded like that,
it would flop over in the water and dump everybody. Bayliner's first
engineering fix was a warning sign to not overload the flybridge, but
then they ended up with massive lawsuits. The old Bertram's of that
era intentionally limitied flybridge seating to 2 or 3 people for just
that reason.