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On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central government. Pretty much how it's supposed to work here. I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have destroyed the GOP. On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not to ever see any sign of the religions too. When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional "let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera. Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping, killing, and other public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause? -- Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right, Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The one that goes "Convert or die"? My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera. Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB. In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are, using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years ago. -- Ban idiots, not guns! In your mind, well, there's nothing there. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central government. Pretty much how it's supposed to work here. I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have destroyed the GOP. On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not to ever see any sign of the religions too. When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional "let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera. Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping, killing, and other public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause? -- Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right, Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The one that goes "Convert or die"? My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera. Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB. In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are, using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years ago. -- Ban idiots, not guns! In your mind, well, there's nothing there. I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of Christianity occurred. |
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On 11/16/15 1:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central government. Pretty much how it's supposed to work here. I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have destroyed the GOP. On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not to ever see any sign of the religions too. When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional "let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera. Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping, killing, and other public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause? -- Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right, Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The one that goes "Convert or die"? My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera. Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB. In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are, using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years ago. -- Ban idiots, not guns! In your mind, well, there's nothing there. I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of Christianity occurred. I think your knowledge of "Christianity" is lacking. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/16/15 1:02 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 10:28 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:07:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/16/2015 7:48 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/16/15 7:02 AM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:24:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/15/15 8:31 PM, wrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 19:26:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I don't think it was a knee jerk at all. I believe most people understand the chinese tolerate religion as long as it doesn't threaten their idea of the general order or challenge the central government. Pretty much how it's supposed to work here. I tend to agree with Harry that we may have tipped the other way too far. When Democrats have to go to prayer breakfasts to get elected, we may be letting the church run our life a tad too much and they have destroyed the GOP. On the other hand the Harry's of the world are pressing too hard not to ever see any sign of the religions too. When there is enough politically correct pressure that Starbucks can't put a santa clause on a coffee cup, we have lost our way I have no objections to reasonable religious practices "practiced" in churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera, or even the occasional "let us pray" nonsense that creeps into the non-church environment. My objection to religion is when its proponents push it into the public sector, when it attempts to pass laws that restrict those who believe differently, when it insinuates itself into public schools, et cetera. Unless it's Islam, correct? Then the pushing, beheading, raping, killing, and other public 'practices' are OK, eh Krause? -- Those would be the practices the Muslims learned from Christians, right, Johnnycakes? Because, as we all know, Christians engaged in these practices before there was a Muslim religion and after the Muslim religion came about. You know the old Christian battle cry, right? The one that goes "Convert or die"? My primary concern about the evils of religious-osity is how it is practiced in *this* country. In this country, it is mostly Christian extremists who push their superstitious and ignorant beliefs onto the public outside of churches, homes, religious schools, et cetera. Whew. For a minute there I thought you were going to blame it on GWB. In his mind there's nothing to blame. The actions of today's extremist Muslims are, using Krauselogic, totally justified by the actions of Christians a thousand years ago. -- Ban idiots, not guns! In your mind, well, there's nothing there. I think 610 when Mohammed got his message is before most of the extremes of Christianity occurred. I think your knowledge of "Christianity" is lacking. Most of the Christian excesses were later than 610. The Inquisition, th which finder, etc. |
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