On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:49:09 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Over the course of history, I wonder which religion - Muslim or
Christianity - has been responsible for more deaths.

It would be an interesting study but we really do not have good
numbers for the Ottoman Empire and it's predecessors in that area.
There was plenty of muslim on muslim violence right up to today.
They may have killed a million in one war (Iran Iraq in the 80s)

When you are throwing around those numbers, things like the crusades
and the inquisition fail in comparison.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:21:42 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Guess what, the Crusades were over a long time ago.

Not according to the muslims we are fighting now. This is just another
battle in a war that has gone on for over 1000 years

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:29:44 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


Want to fix the illegal problem? Easy! Just bring back a Bracero program.
Temporary work permits. Not a path to citizenship, which they do nothing
t want if they can come and work part of the year. We already do it with
H-1 visas, screwing those citizens with STEM degrees.

I would give a work permits to anyone who pays FICA taxes and stays
out of trouble.
The ironic thing is the IRS may actually be getting less money because
of the immigration crackdowns. Back when 3 or 4 people were using the
same SS# they were collecting withholding and FICA from all of them
and only one could actually file a return. The reality is they had to
have enough taken out to insure they didn't have to and nobody filed.
(those tax refunds stayed in DC) The FICA tax was first dollar and
they were never going to be able to collect benefits because they
would not have the documents to get by SSA.
A friend of mine had a lawn service and he knew most of his guys were
illegal. He still collected taxes and sent it in like they were. Every
year he got a letter from the IRS saying there might be a problem with
the SS# but they didn't really want him to do anything and it said in
big bold print "Do not use this letter as a reason to terminate the
employee"
They knew it would cost them money

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://shoebat.com/2015/06/30/china-...-who-complain/

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 01:52:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

I think as long as we, and allies, have an issue with Iran over nuclear weapons, we
provide a rallying cry for the extremists. For us, and allies, to 'back out' would be
to put nukes in the hands of Iran very shortly. I have no doubt that ISIS could get
their hands on same soon after. If these kids in the sand box are left alone, they'll
build some very dangerous toys.

Then what?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 02:03:44 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 17:21:42 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Guess what, the Crusades were over a long time ago.

Not according to the muslims we are fighting now. This is just another
battle in a war that has gone on for over 1000 years

Harry and the Muslims must think a lot alike.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 11/15/15 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:54:04 +0000, RGrew176
wrote:


;1048830 Wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:16:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:
-
At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.-

I am not sure China really cares about this because they don't seem to
have a muslim problem. They have sense enough not to have "made in
China" bomb fragments in the rubble.
The idea that we would partner up with the russians to kill several
million muslims is not totally off the wall tho. They have far worse
islamic terrorism problems than we do and it is right on their
borders, not across an ocean.
I doubt it would actually accomplish much tho.

That is because they have pretty much banned Islam in China.

http://tinyurl.com/patk2fk

Smart moves.
--


Good grief...you righties really truly have your heads up your asses
when it comes to knowledge of the world and the way it is. If there is
an antidote for Fox News and crazy rightwingedness, you ought to take it
three times a day.

The PRC has *not* banned Islam. There are millions of Muslims in China,
there are Muslim schools, festivals, cultural activities, architectural,
ways to practice Muslim dietary laws.

The site RGrew176 cited is a right-wing, bat**** crazy christian site
run by a convert.

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 06:20:33 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 01:52:47 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:31:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.

It has nothing to do with our choice of religion?

Only when we are promoting it in their country.
The jihadis who attack "infidels" in other countries are just nuts who
have become radicalized on the internet, not unlike the other mass
killers we deal with.

I think as long as we, and allies, have an issue with Iran over nuclear weapons, we
provide a rallying cry for the extremists. For us, and allies, to 'back out' would be
to put nukes in the hands of Iran very shortly. I have no doubt that ISIS could get
their hands on same soon after. If these kids in the sand box are left alone, they'll
build some very dangerous toys.

Then what?

Iran is fighting ISIS,
I understand it is sometimes hard to keep who is fighting whom
straight ;-)
ISIS is more closely related to our good buddies the Saudis.