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On 8/14/2015 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. |
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In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. |
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On 8/14/2015 11:53 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. |
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In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? |
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On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet. If I am, what difference does it make? My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold: 1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary (who he seems to think is the second coming). Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore. That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations about people's military service ... recently adding "murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel) and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin. Combined, those make up reason number one. (BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of reading all his crap). 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. |
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In article 9MqdnfwcXbSztVPInZ2dnUU7-b-
, says... 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. You won't convince anybody. Maybe kids. Everybody else has heard that same bull**** for 20 years. They are immune. Sorry. It always gets down to proposed policies. The GOP has shot their feet off. HRC is a woman. Most likely that's the the end of the story. |
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On 8/14/15 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/14/2015 12:57 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? I don't think I am crazy ... at least not yet. If I am, what difference does it make? My purpose in harping about Hillary is two fold: 1. I got tired of a certain person here constantly posting to the newsgroup with his anti-everything and everyone except Hillary (who he seems to think is the second coming). Over the past couple of years he has lost any sense of reasonable discussion or debate and labels anyone who doesn't see things his way as being crazies, republi-trash or whatever other derogatory comment he can dream up. He is not rational in discussion anymore. That combined with unsolicited posts about religious nut cases that don't reflect most people's beliefs, his negative accusations about people's military service ... recently adding "murderous" to one of them (which may border on slander or libel) and his constant and repetitious anti-American comments got to be a waste of time reading everyday. So, he's keeping company with slammer, the only other person in my Bozo Bin. Combined, those make up reason number one. (BTW, I also realize it's a game for him. I just got tired of reading all his crap). 2. I think Hillary Clinton is a deceitful, lying and unqualified person to be the Chief Executive of this country. If I can convince just one person to not vote for her, the effort would be worthwhile. If you notice I don't call her supporters (including Harry) "loonies", "trash" or other derogatory names. I try to make a case for my arguments and opinions. Your mileage may vary of course. It's your right. Awwww. And you want those you convince to vote for Dumb Jebbie... |
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On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. |
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says... On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. HRC. Clinton. Vast right wing conspiracy. Go figure. HRC is no different from any other pol. Maybe Bernie is the exception. But he's a "socialist." Oh, and Trump. The rest are the same. Connivers. I'm not talking "policy," which is being ignored. Could be this whole thing is a ploy by HRC to draw out the crazies. Whatever, she's made her bed. |
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