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I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago:
------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 14 Aug 2015 13:44:25 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. Hey if it stops the Bush candidacy, it is OK with me. I don't care if I ever hear Bush, Clinton or even Kennedy again. We kicked out the British to get rid of royal families. |
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On 8/14/2015 8:44 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called “Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,” by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. Clinton has not said why she requested the book, but it includes some advice that is particularly interesting in light of the controversy over her unconventional email arrangement at the State Department and her decision to delete tens of thousands of emails she deemed to be purely personal. The copy that ABC downloaded for $9.99 had some interesting revelations. Take, for example, Chapter Six: “The Email That Can Land You In Jail.” The chapter includes a section entitled “How to Delete Something So It Stays Deleted.” “Some people are hoarders, some are checkers,” the authors write. “The main thing to consider is that once you do decide to delete, it’s like taking the garbage from your kitchen and putting it in your hallway. It’s still there.” The chapter advised that to truly delete emails may require a special rewriting program “to make sure that it’s not just elsewhere on the drive but has in fact been written over sixteen or twenty times and rendered undefinable.” But Shipley and Schwalbe warn that deleting emails could lead to future legal troubles. On page 215, the authors list “Stupid (and Real) Email Phrases That Wound Up in Court.” Number one on the list? “DELETE THIS EMAIL!’ Later, on page 226, the writers warn, “If you’re issued a subpoena, your deletion binge will only make you look guilty.” ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. Too bad you had no interest in the 22 million emails Dubya dumped. Did he really read 7,534 emails everyday he was in office? Or the emails your hero Jeb dumped. What were they being investigated for when they did that? Oh, nothing? Kinda different to delete something the governments wants, because the think you committed a crime. Mikek --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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On 8/14/2015 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. |
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In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. |
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On 8/14/2015 11:53 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ZtSdnXkNd6-ynFPInZ2dnUU7- , says... Given the circumstances, the info contained on her personal server while she served as SOS is important. Equally important however is her unwillingness to cooperate with requests to deliver them to ensure there were no potential breaches that could affect national security or policy. I'll give you an example that may not be so obvious. There have been some references to imagery contained in some of the emails. The capabilities of some government US satellite imagery is classified. If her server contained such imagery, it must be considered to be compromised and thus the satellite capabilities. Again, the main issue isn't her poor judgement by not using a government secure server. I think that early on she acknowledged that in hindsight she probably should have used a government server for official government correspondence as SOS. It's her foot dragging, excuses, statements (some already proven to be false) that is the issue. The public respects and is owed honesty and she isn't being honest. With regard to your previous post, I apparently missed a lot of Mika's rant this morning. I was just reading about it though. Much of her criticism was related to Hillary's "arranged" public town hall meetings where attendees have been carefully selected ahead of time and are supporters of her nomination. Blah, blah. Within 2 hours I saw and heard an MSNBC and a CNN reporter tell how they saw a secret document revealing something they were reporting on. They were related to different matters, both military "national security." I have no doubt they were classified "secret," and that the reporters didn't have required clearance. They didn't bat an eye. Just shows "secret" ain't secret. As far as "satellite capabilities" that's likewise BS. And rumors to boot. Mika is plain crazy. She's become a target for jokes. Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. |
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In article IJCdncIiL49BiFPInZ2dnUU7-
, says... Just because classified information becomes known to the media and made public doesn't change the laws and requirements to protect such information from becoming public. *That* is the issue, not what you think you heard on TV that may have been "secret". It's just another red herring. There's been many. Look, if HRC has done something criminal, she'll be charged. That's how it works. I've been waiting 20 ****ing years. The part of "Morning Joe" that I caught this morning was when both Mika and Scarborough were hammering Eugene Robinson, the liberal (and respected) columnist for the Washington Post. He's a regular on the program and is usually precise and well reasoned in his arguments. Not today though. It was the first time I have seen him tongue-tied trying to come up with ways to defend Clinton against Mika and Scarborough's accusations. Lol. Funny how we see things differently. How is Gene going to argue with the 2 hosts who have already made up their minds. He has a pretty constant gig on that show. What I saw was him looking at them and thinking, "Well, these people are crazy. It doesn't matter what I say. I'll hold my tongue and keep my gig." Jesus, they won't stop harping on the same thing, over and over and over again. Pretty much like you're doing. How do you tell people they are crazy? Luddite..Luddite? |
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On 8/14/15 10:25 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article nv-dnR4666AWc1DInZ2dnUU7- , says... I was just reading this as reported by ABC news 2 days ago: ------------------ "The last batch of Hillary Clinton emails released by the State Department included one from Clinton asking to borrow a book called ?Send: Why People Email So Badly and How to Do It Better,? by David Shipley and Will Schwalbe. When I was in the corporate world I went to a mandatory "writing" class that was very useful. They used a book which I think was called "Put it in Writing." That really improved my memo writing skills, and even bled into project documents. Email is easy. Stick to business. HRC of course mixed business with personal. ---------------------- The ABC article also include an image of the email reply to Hillary from Cheryl Mills (State staff member) This is the content: ----------------- From: Mills, Cheryl D Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:25 PM To: H Subject: May I borrow Will bring tomorrow --- Original Message --- From: H Sent: Tue Dec 01 19:17:57 2009 Subject: May I borrow SEND by David Shipley? ------------------ and thus, the coverup began. If that thumbdrive is really a backup of the server, which is entirely possible, they will uncover whatever was borrowed. What do you think it was, a nuke? I predict this will get ridiculously fantastical when the PERSONAL emails, like the one above, are leaked by the GOP. Like when GWB's "chemical weapons production facility" in Iraq was revealed to be a truck trailer boneyard. But have at it. Hard to stop insanity. 22 million, that's million, emails dumped at the behest of Dubya and his puppetmaster. 22 million. Seen any? How about the ones that said if they fudged the intel on Iraq, they could start their shooting war. |
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