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My Gun
Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 12 gauge semi-auto shotgun right in the doorway. I left 9 shells beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of my house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had presented to do so. In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the hype by the Left and the Media about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. The United States is third in Murders throughout the World. But if you take out just four cities: Chicago, Detroit, Washington, DC and New Orleans, the United States is fourth from the bottom, in the entire world, for Murders! These four Cities also have the toughest Gun Control Laws in the U. S. All four of these cities are controlled by Democrats. It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right? Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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John, my guns are well behaved too!
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
John, my guns are well behaved too! In the week ending June 18, there were 15 homicides in Chicago. Not one of them made the local news here. Almost all were by gunshot, and the vast majority of those killed were black males. Yet, no mention in the news. One might think we should focus on the *behavior* of the folks committing the homicides rather than attempting to build a bureaucracy around gun paperwork. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner behavior causes problems. |
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On 6/30/2015 5:30 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: John, my guns are well behaved too! In the week ending June 18, there were 15 homicides in Chicago. Not one of them made the local news here. Almost all were by gunshot, and the vast majority of those killed were black males. Yet, no mention in the news. One might think we should focus on the *behavior* of the folks committing the homicides rather than attempting to build a bureaucracy around gun paperwork. How do you focus on the "behavior" of people committing homicides with guns if you don't know who has the guns in the first place? |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:29:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: One might think we should focus on the *behavior* of the folks committing the homicides rather than attempting to build a bureaucracy around gun paperwork. How do you focus on the "behavior" of people committing homicides with guns if you don't know who has the guns in the first place? === Almost all of those guns are illegally owned. It is totally naive to think that a new law or two will change that. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:29:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: One might think we should focus on the *behavior* of the folks committing the homicides rather than attempting to build a bureaucracy around gun paperwork. How do you focus on the "behavior" of people committing homicides with guns if you don't know who has the guns in the first place? === Almost all of those guns are illegally owned. It is totally naive to think that a new law or two will change that. How many murders occur in Chicago with legally owned guns? |
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On 6/30/2015 7:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:29:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: One might think we should focus on the *behavior* of the folks committing the homicides rather than attempting to build a bureaucracy around gun paperwork. How do you focus on the "behavior" of people committing homicides with guns if you don't know who has the guns in the first place? === Almost all of those guns are illegally owned. It is totally naive to think that a new law or two will change that. How many of those illegally owned guns started out as "legally" owned guns? It's a start. All it involves is a requirement for a background check and registration of the firearm to establish a chain of custody. No big deal and no infringement of anyone's "rights". |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:34:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: === Almost all of those guns are illegally owned. It is totally naive to think that a new law or two will change that. How many of those illegally owned guns started out as "legally" owned guns? It's a start. All it involves is a requirement for a background check and registration of the firearm to establish a chain of custody. No big deal and no infringement of anyone's "rights". === There is quite a lot of evidence to show that law enforcement officers almost never try to trace the chain of custody with a murder weapon. Their primary focus, as it should be, is on apprehending the perpetrator and any accomplices. Registration of all firearms is the first step down the slippery slope of taxation, regulation and confiscation. It would also create a nation of law breakers. Be careful what you ask for, and do not always assume that government has your best interests at heart. |
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On 6/30/2015 9:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:34:13 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: === Almost all of those guns are illegally owned. It is totally naive to think that a new law or two will change that. How many of those illegally owned guns started out as "legally" owned guns? It's a start. All it involves is a requirement for a background check and registration of the firearm to establish a chain of custody. No big deal and no infringement of anyone's "rights". === There is quite a lot of evidence to show that law enforcement officers almost never try to trace the chain of custody with a murder weapon. Their primary focus, as it should be, is on apprehending the perpetrator and any accomplices. Registration of all firearms is the first step down the slippery slope of taxation, regulation and confiscation. It would also create a nation of law breakers. Be careful what you ask for, and do not always assume that government has your best interests at heart. Could it be that law enforcement doesn't bother tracing the chain of custody simply because there isn't one? I understand the slippery slope concerns but I am not a believer that confiscation is in the cards ... other than for those who obtain firearms illegally and without undergoing a background check. That's the whole point. |
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:24:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: I understand the slippery slope concerns but I am not a believer that confiscation is in the cards ... other than for those who obtain firearms illegally and without undergoing a background check. That's the whole point. === Confiscation always starts with a single step and it has happened elsewhere in the recent past. We're not immune unfortunately. What makes you think that the owners of illegal firearms will register? They're already criminals and one more law to them is nothing. If you think the war on drugs is impossible to prosecute, try starting a war on guns. Even the good guys will fight that, and the good guys will be the only ones impacted. |
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