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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/8/2015 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? He stated behavioral as well as genetic. And yes, I think genetics can pass on mental illness. Friend is bipolar. His dad was bipolar and committed suicide early on. His daughter is bipolar. And Gregg stated killing someone. Not just being mentally incapacitated. Seems like *everyone* is bipolar now-a-days. . So, you and Greg feel that a person who kills someone but is determined to be insane should just automatically to to the chair ... or lethal injection gurney? Actually as I told the judge on the last murder 1 jury summons I got. I can go either way on the death penalty. We really do not have one now. More likely to die of old age. And I think the last cost estimate to execute someone in this state is in excess of $4.5 million dollars. At least put them away for life. And someone killing someone is not necessarily guilty of an death penalty crime. Lots are. But getting off because you are insane is insane of society. And most are ADD not bi-polar. And my mother in law was definitely bi-,polar. As an aside on bipolar. Lots of bipolar are very functional. Very successful. Richard Branson for one. My aquintance said probably the reason he was rich. Mostly on the high end, and bought and sold numerous companies. As he was always going. |
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/9/2015 2:44 AM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? He stated behavioral as well as genetic. And yes, I think genetics can pass on mental illness. Friend is bipolar. His dad was bipolar and committed suicide early on. His daughter is bipolar. And Gregg stated killing someone. Not just being mentally incapacitated. Seems like *everyone* is bipolar now-a-days. . So, you and Greg feel that a person who kills someone but is determined to be insane should just automatically to to the chair ... or lethal injection gurney? Actually as I told the judge on the last murder 1 jury summons I got. I can go either way on the death penalty. We really do not have one now. More likely to die of old age. And I think the last cost estimate to execute someone in this state is in excess of $4.5 million dollars. At least put them away for life. And someone killing someone is not necessarily guilty of an death penalty crime. Lots are. But getting off because you are insane is insane of society. And most are ADD not bi-polar. And my mother in law was definitely bi-,polar. As an aside on bipolar. Lots of bipolar are very functional. Very successful. Richard Branson for one. My aquintance said probably the reason he was rich. Mostly on the high end, and bought and sold numerous companies. As he was always going. Seems all I hear about now-a-days is kids and young people being diagnosed with either depression or being bi-polar. Makes me wonder how many of my (our) generation would have been diagnosed with the same afflictions had the interest in the subjects been as high as it is today. Too many people are living on pills today. There would have been more diagnosed in our youth if the money was there for schools. But I think percentage wise lots more ADD autism than when we were kids. My theory is environmental. All the plastics, growth hormones, antibiotics in our diet now are not real healthy. My daughter is a pediatric therapist and most of her clients are Autistic. And she thinks the guy who stated vaccination is the cause is a criminal in the damage he has caused. |
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