On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:47:34 -0500, wrote:

On 11 Feb 2015 01:29:25 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:13:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/10/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:58:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

A secondary motivator is to make himself feel better
about never getting a college degree by putting down those who did.

I don't have to do that. Simply looking at BAs with $30k a year jobs
and $150,000 in student debt is sufficient.

I am retired making a fairly nice living and you are still going to
work every day, trying to pay down your debt. Nuff said



As far as I can tell from your posts here. your life consists of make-do
home repairs and projects on your house and taking your wife and dog out
on pontoon rides in the adjacent swamp.

I work when I want to work. Fortunately, I still feel like working, and
still am able to contribute. I spent Monday at a client's office in
Baltimore helping several of its employees put together still and video
presentations on their work last fall helping villagers in Africa plan
and build potable water projects.

To my way of thinking, that beats pool maintenance and rebuilding a pool
bar.

Yeah, just a few little make do home repair

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/house%2010%...rogression.jpg

Nice lawn. ?

I am not much of a lawn guy. I am not interested in wasting that much
water and spraying that many chemicals. If you don't that is what the
grass looks like in the dry season when the property appraiser shoots
those pictures.

The side you will appreciate is wildlife loves my "natural" lawn.
Quail, rabbits and ibis are out there all the time.

Python food.
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Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

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On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:29:30 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:

"Lot of cases"? That's where I think you are wrong. The degree may
qualify you ... it's the main reason I pursued one ... in the eyes of
others but it doesn't mean you don't have the knowledge or expertise
to do your job. College doesn't teach that ... I know that for a fact.

When I was doing hiring interviews, there were degreed and non degreed
engineers. I would hire a degreed engineer over an equal non degreed
engineer, for the simple reason, they proved they could stick to something
for the duration.

Engineer is a bad example. You pretty much need college to get that
certification from IEEE.

Ask the same question about hiring a retail manager or a
programmer/analyst and how would you answer?
If it was anything near the construction business I doubt there is
even a question to ask.

Experience will beat education every time for a company that actually
wants to succeed.

Lots of states do not require a degree for engineer title. To get a PE
certificate, you have to pass tests as well as experience, and most likely
can not pass the test without university math. When I took the EIT I was
just out of school, no was 30 years old, worked my way through university,
and passed the test. 2 years later would have been hard to pass it.

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 13:24:10 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Feb 2015 08:16:11 -0500, Abit Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 19:53:09 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 18:13:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/10/15 11:32 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 06:58:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

A secondary motivator is to make himself feel better
about never getting a college degree by putting down those who did.

I don't have to do that. Simply looking at BAs with $30k a year jobs
and $150,000 in student debt is sufficient.

I am retired making a fairly nice living and you are still going to
work every day, trying to pay down your debt. Nuff said



As far as I can tell from your posts here. your life consists of make-do
home repairs and projects on your house and taking your wife and dog out
on pontoon rides in the adjacent swamp.

I work when I want to work. Fortunately, I still feel like working, and
still am able to contribute. I spent Monday at a client's office in
Baltimore helping several of its employees put together still and video
presentations on their work last fall helping villagers in Africa plan
and build potable water projects.

To my way of thinking, that beats pool maintenance and rebuilding a pool
bar.

Yeah, just a few little make do home repair

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/house%2010%...rogression.jpg

Nice paint job on that shed.

Not paint, Brick pavers.
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg

Even nicer.
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Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.