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Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. I was referring to the constitution. Where does it say no religion? |
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On 1/4/15 2:12 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 12:42:38 -0500, KC wrote: On 1/4/2015 12:02 PM, wrote: On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 10:22:21 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. I am glad you warned us that your statement was going to be "Specious" before you started writing it. If the US is paying $6 Billion a year to prop up the zionists, Who said we are supporting "Zionists"? Israel is a Nation or a State isn't it? we are establishing religion with our tax dollars. Why is that not a problem for you? I guarantee that if there was an evangelical group, funded by the US tax payer, taking over a country, promoting christianity at the point of a gun, you would be outraged. Harry proclaimed Israel to be a Jewish nation. The leaders of Israel, including the current prime minister, describe Israel as a Jewish state. |
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On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. |
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On 1/4/2015 7:09 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. Wimp. -- I don't need anger management. I just need people to stop ****ing me off! Respectfully submitted by Justan |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. It does not say one nation under Jesus. One national under Allahu Akbar neither. What ever God floats your boat. Including the Prince of Atheism. Is inclusive of all deities. |
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On 1/4/15 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. It does not say one nation under Jesus. One national under Allahu Akbar neither. What ever God floats your boat. Including the Prince of Atheism. Is inclusive of all deities. Not relevant or accurate. Those who pushed for the inclusion of the phrase were christians. Fortunately a growing number of public schools have recognized the religious *******ization of "the pledge" and have dropped it from morning student activities. Religious expressionism has no place in the public schools. |
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On 1/5/2015 6:33 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/4/15 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. It does not say one nation under Jesus. One national under Allahu Akbar neither. What ever God floats your boat. Including the Prince of Atheism. Is inclusive of all deities. Not relevant or accurate. Those who pushed for the inclusion of the phrase were christians. Fortunately a growing number of public schools have recognized the religious *******ization of "the pledge" and have dropped it from morning student activities. Religious expressionism has no place in the public schools. Thank the Jehovah Witnesses for getting the words removed. -- I don't need anger management. I just need people to stop ****ing me off! Respectfully submitted by Justan |
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On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:09:04 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. Again, how many of the religious conservatives here have forced their view on you? That's about the dozenth time I've asked you that question, for which you seem not to have sufficient balls to provide an answer. Yet you persist with the same excuses for your bull****. It's not your politics, Krause, it's your behavior. |
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On 1/5/15 8:49 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 19:09:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 4:42 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On 4 Jan 2015 20:14:11 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote: Califbill wrote: Justan Olphart wrote: On 1/4/2015 10:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/4/15 1:37 AM, wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 21:39:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: Harry, after reading the article and your responses to various posts, I jist have to ask- are you shoving anti-religion down people's throats? Just curious... Harry is against religion everywhere except Israel where he thinks a direct connection between church and state is acceptable and it is OK to impose their religious beliefs on the people living there. Specious. Israel was established as a Jewish nation. The United States was not established as a Christian nation. I am not against religion. I am against religion/religious beliefs dictating laws, regulations, what is taught in public schools, et cetera. "One nation under God" But did not say a Christian God. Actually the founders stated there would not be a State Religion, ala Church of England. Not that there would be no religious expression. The phrase "one nation..." had nothing to do with the founding fathers, the Declaration, or the Constitution. It was shoved into the "pledge" during the middle of the last century because of right-wing pressure. Harry, are you just *trying* to promote friction? Just stating a bit of history. The phrase in question is a perfect example of how religious conservatives force their view on those who believe differently. Again, how many of the religious conservatives here have forced their view on you? That's about the dozenth time I've asked you that question, for which you seem not to have sufficient balls to provide an answer. Yet you persist with the same excuses for your bull****. It's not your politics, Krause, it's your behavior. Ahh, so you are reverting back to the Herring who posts personal insults. How sad. |
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