On 12/3/2014 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 07:49:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



The part the US Supreme Court found unconstitutional is pretty significant.



Only if Brown was shot in the back ... and he wasn't.
When he turned around and approached the officer, not following the
orders to "get on the ground", he was presenting a clear and present
danger.
Brown had already demonstrated that he would kick Wilson's ass in a
fair fight. Fortunately for Wilson, cops do not have to fight fair.
They give them a gun.

BTW if this case goes the other way and Wilson does get prosecuted,
you can kiss the idea of female officers goodby. 99% of them would
never win a fair fight with a guy like Brown. The same is true of most
male officers.



I don't disagree however I don't recall a command by Wilson to "get on
the ground" when Brown turned around appearing in the transcripts.
Maybe I missed it?

Wilson ordered Brown and Johnson to get on the sidewalk, but that was at
the beginning of the altercation.

On 12/3/14 12:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:13:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:09:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


You didn't miss it. It's not in the article cited by jps (above).
However, it *is* stated in other sources that the neither the shop owner
or any employee made the call to the police. According to them the call
was made by a customer in the store. Here is one:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322560/-Ferguson-Store-Owner-Says-NO-ONE-From-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft


Do you think it is possible that he is just saying that to keep his
store from being destroyed again.


Speculation upon speculation upon speculation...

Isn't that what jps' whole dailykos article was? When almost every
sentence contains a 'may', 'seems', 'appears', etc, there is some
wild-assed speculation going on.

I note neither you nor Luddite commented on the speculation therein.
--


I haven't been a constant and frequent participant in this thread. I
thought it more fun to sit back and watch you right-wing racists express
your racism.

It's like watching Palin or Bachmann...you cringe at what they say but
they are making such fools of themselves, you just don't want them to stop.


--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:18:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:13:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:09:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


You didn't miss it. It's not in the article cited by jps (above).
However, it *is* stated in other sources that the neither the shop owner
or any employee made the call to the police. According to them the call
was made by a customer in the store. Here is one:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322560/-Ferguson-Store-Owner-Says-NO-ONE-From-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft


Do you think it is possible that he is just saying that to keep his
store from being destroyed again.


Speculation upon speculation upon speculation...

Isn't that what jps' whole dailykos article was? When almost every
sentence contains a 'may', 'seems', 'appears', etc, there is some
wild-assed speculation going on.

I note neither you nor Luddite commented on the speculation therein.
--


I haven't been a constant and frequent participant in this thread. I
thought it more fun to sit back and watch you right-wing racists express
your racism.

It's like watching Palin or Bachmann...you cringe at what they say but
they are making such fools of themselves, you just don't want them to stop.

Yeah, right. You've read every post but one, eh?

Toad, is it any wonder your honesty gets questioned around here?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:18:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:13:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:09:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


You didn't miss it. It's not in the article cited by jps (above).
However, it *is* stated in other sources that the neither the shop owner
or any employee made the call to the police. According to them the call
was made by a customer in the store. Here is one:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322560/-Ferguson-Store-Owner-Says-NO-ONE-From-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft


Do you think it is possible that he is just saying that to keep his
store from being destroyed again.


Speculation upon speculation upon speculation...

Isn't that what jps' whole dailykos article was? When almost every
sentence contains a 'may', 'seems', 'appears', etc, there is some
wild-assed speculation going on.

I note neither you nor Luddite commented on the speculation therein.
--


I haven't been a constant and frequent participant in this thread. I
thought it more fun to sit back and watch you right-wing racists express
your racism.

It's like watching Palin or Bachmann...you cringe at what they say but
they are making such fools of themselves, you just don't want them to stop.

Yeah, right. You've read every post but one, eh?

Toad, is it any wonder your honesty gets questioned around here?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

I neither said nor implied I read most of the posts. I didn't. Why do you
always assume everyone shares your tastes?
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

On 3 Dec 2014 20:26:26 GMT, F*O*A*D wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:18:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 12:13:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/3/14 12:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 02:09:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


You didn't miss it. It's not in the article cited by jps (above).
However, it *is* stated in other sources that the neither the shop owner
or any employee made the call to the police. According to them the call
was made by a customer in the store. Here is one:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/18/1322560/-Ferguson-Store-Owner-Says-NO-ONE-From-His-Store-Called-Cops-To-Report-Cigar-Theft


Do you think it is possible that he is just saying that to keep his
store from being destroyed again.


Speculation upon speculation upon speculation...

Isn't that what jps' whole dailykos article was? When almost every
sentence contains a 'may', 'seems', 'appears', etc, there is some
wild-assed speculation going on.

I note neither you nor Luddite commented on the speculation therein.
--


I haven't been a constant and frequent participant in this thread. I
thought it more fun to sit back and watch you right-wing racists express
your racism.

It's like watching Palin or Bachmann...you cringe at what they say but
they are making such fools of themselves, you just don't want them to stop.

Yeah, right. You've read every post but one, eh?

Toad, is it any wonder your honesty gets questioned around here?
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

I neither said nor implied I read most of the posts. I didn't. Why do you
always assume everyone shares your tastes?

Toad, I wouldn't expect you to have the integrity to admit watching
that video.

You're a joke.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

On 12/3/2014 3:42 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/3/2014 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 07:49:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



The part the US Supreme Court found unconstitutional is pretty significant.



Only if Brown was shot in the back ... and he wasn't.
When he turned around and approached the officer, not following the
orders to "get on the ground", he was presenting a clear and present
danger.
Brown had already demonstrated that he would kick Wilson's ass in a
fair fight. Fortunately for Wilson, cops do not have to fight fair.
They give them a gun.

BTW if this case goes the other way and Wilson does get prosecuted,
you can kiss the idea of female officers goodby. 99% of them would
never win a fair fight with a guy like Brown. The same is true of most
male officers.



I don't disagree however I don't recall a command by Wilson to "get on
the ground" when Brown turned around appearing in the transcripts.
Maybe I missed it?

Wilson ordered Brown and Johnson to get on the sidewalk, but that was at
the beginning of the altercation.

Should Wilson have said please get on the ground or I will shoot you?
While he was spewing all of that oration Brown would have had time to
physically engage Wilson. Dead perp or dead cop, which do you prefer?



"Get on the ground" is a standard command used by the police to gain
control of a fluid situation.

I don't know if Wilson had time to make this command. Greg commented
(above), "When he turned around and approached the officer, not
following the orders to "get on the ground", he was presenting a clear
and present danger."

All I said was that I had not seen the command given in the GJ transcripts.

On 12/3/2014 3:42 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 12/3/2014 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 07:49:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



The part the US Supreme Court found unconstitutional is pretty significant.



Only if Brown was shot in the back ... and he wasn't.
When he turned around and approached the officer, not following the
orders to "get on the ground", he was presenting a clear and present
danger.
Brown had already demonstrated that he would kick Wilson's ass in a
fair fight. Fortunately for Wilson, cops do not have to fight fair.
They give them a gun.

BTW if this case goes the other way and Wilson does get prosecuted,
you can kiss the idea of female officers goodby. 99% of them would
never win a fair fight with a guy like Brown. The same is true of most
male officers.



I don't disagree however I don't recall a command by Wilson to "get on
the ground" when Brown turned around appearing in the transcripts.
Maybe I missed it?

Wilson ordered Brown and Johnson to get on the sidewalk, but that was at
the beginning of the altercation.

No it wasn't dumb ass... the beginning of the altercation is when the
big dumb **** reached in the car and nailed the cop.... geeze.. how hard
is that. ****, by your logic his parents raising him to act like an
animal in public is what started the altercation....

Should Wilson have said please get on the ground or I will shoot you?
While he was spewing all of that oration Brown would have had time to
physically engage Wilson. Dead perp or dead cop, which do you prefer?

On 12/3/2014 3:57 PM, KC wrote:


On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 07:49:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't disagree however I don't recall a command by Wilson to "get on
the ground" when Brown turned around appearing in the transcripts.
Maybe I missed it?

Wilson ordered Brown and Johnson to get on the sidewalk, but that was at
the beginning of the altercation.


No it wasn't dumb ass... the beginning of the altercation is when the
big dumb **** reached in the car and nailed the cop.... geeze.. how hard
is that. ****, by your logic his parents raising him to act like an
animal in public is what started the altercation....


You might want to re-think your statement (above) Scott. The whole
incident started with Wilson approaching Brown and Johnson while in his
squad car. Brown and Johnson were walking down the middle of the street.

Wilson told them to move over to the sidewalk. From there it all went
downhill.

BTW, I am not a dumb ass.

On 12/3/14 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/3/2014 3:57 PM, KC wrote:


On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 07:49:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I don't disagree however I don't recall a command by Wilson to "get on
the ground" when Brown turned around appearing in the transcripts.
Maybe I missed it?

Wilson ordered Brown and Johnson to get on the sidewalk, but that
was at
the beginning of the altercation.


No it wasn't dumb ass... the beginning of the altercation is when the
big dumb **** reached in the car and nailed the cop.... geeze.. how hard
is that. ****, by your logic his parents raising him to act like an
animal in public is what started the altercation....


You might want to re-think your statement (above) Scott. The whole
incident started with Wilson approaching Brown and Johnson while in his
squad car. Brown and Johnson were walking down the middle of the street.

Wilson told them to move over to the sidewalk. From there it all went
downhill.

BTW, I am not a dumb ass.



Hey! No fair!

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/3/14 8:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,

I never had the need to punch a police officer while he was sitting in
his cruiser. I never had the need to reach for a police officer's gun
while he was sitting in his cruiser.


There's still hope.


So, you going to attack a cop in his cruiser?