On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:31:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Need to start somewhere, don't we?

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No.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:33:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The majority of the US population favors background checks and registration.

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That is only because the population centers in the high density north
east and far west overwhelm the numbers in the rest of the country,
the part of the country where reason still prevails I might add.

The founding fathers of this great country envisioned this population
imbalance issue, and that is why the senate is structured the way it
is - to give low population states a voice than can not be trampled.

On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:31:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/17/2014 11:14 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:18:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/16/2014 11:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014 15:59:57 -0500, Harrold wrote:

BTW why would I need a bill of sale for guns I own?
I might understand it for one I sold, if it traced back to me somehow
but I probably only have 2 that could be and I have no plans to sell
them.


To help your lawyer prove that a gun wasn't in your possession when a
crime was committed with it.

How does a piece of paper do that? Cops put the gun in your hand with
forensic evidence.



If the gun can't be traced to me, how go they even show up at my door
in the first place.


I get a kick out of how you continue to give reasons that registration
is a good idea, while arguing against it.


Why would I want to attract police attention to myself?

I also get a kick out of how both you and John are only concerned about
the gun ever being traced back to the original owner. That's not the
benefit of registration.

The "too big to manage" argument doesn't hold up either. There are
several examples of huge data bases managed by the federal and state
governments that run smoothly and efficiently. One is a reporting
system here in MA that registers a firearm to a new owner when
transferred to him in a private sale. All done on-line and doesn't cost
a penny,


Everything costs money. there ain't no free lunch.
The more accurate the database, the more it costs.
The reason why most of your on;line experiences seem to be free is
because of advertising. Do you really want the gun registration
database to be advertiser supported with all of the data to be for
sale to anyone who will pay for it?
If the government operates this database it will cost a lot of money
to maintain and for what?
Criminals will want guns that are untraceable and all it takes to
break that chain of custody is one theft or loss.
The receiving stolen property charge will disappear in the cloud of
felonies most of these guys get arrested for and you can generate that
with a simple theft report.


Need to start somewhere, don't we? Again you are arguing against yourself.



The question is not where or when to start...but where or when will it
end?

You seem to think all liberals are stand-up, keep their word type guys
- like you.

Remember, Krause is one of them.