On 11/13/2014 9:15 PM, jps wrote:


I'm as guilty as any but I also know I sit significantly closer to the
middle than what's estimated by most of the "righties" here.


Yeah, you harry, and al sharpton.. all middle of the road kind of guys..
lol...

On 11/14/2014 12:15 AM, jps wrote:


The guys in sandals are organized. You'd be cowering in your media
room like all your neighbors, their wives and kids. This is America,
Greg, not Afghanistan.


Love the way you "middle of the road" kind of guys seem to act like the
very far left... You need to get out more. Maybe in the gated community
you live in, but not in the rest of the country... we don't bend over as
easily as you all out on the crazy coast...

On 11/14/2014 2:15 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:21:38 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:15:08 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:33:21 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:47:02 -0800, jps wrote:

I think you misunderstand me. A rogue government can only do away
with the constitution if they have buy in from the military.

In that case, it doesn't matter how many guns you own. They have
bigger.

How many times has the US military lost a war to guys in sandals with
AK47s in the last half century? I think it was every ****ing time.
They always had bigger guns.

The guys in sandals are organized. You'd be cowering in your media
room like all your neighbors, their wives and kids. This is America,
Greg, not Afghanistan.

We taught them and the Viet Cong most of what they know.
The real difference is they are fighting for their own freedom and you
can't underestimate that.

I really do not believe this really means anything here because we are
not going to ever get that far and the people in the army are, as a
rule, the guns, guts and god folks who the left disdains.

If there was a revolution, it would be more of a military coup than
Washington sending the army against the hinterlands.
The people who like oppressive government regulation, generally dodge
the draft and would not even consider enlisting..

Right, and you'd organize yourselves into a fighting machine by
connecting via Twitter?

Command and control? Hierarchy? Leadership? Fantasies.

You'd be on your own with a few neighbors. It'd be sad if your wife
had to watch you succumb to your country's own military.


You are as much of an idiot as harry.

On 11/13/2014 9:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.


The problem Greg is that liberals always think they are the only ones
smart enough to decide what "common sense" is... and there is never any
compromise unless it's a temporary means to an end.

On 11/14/2014 12:16 AM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:47:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.

Yes, just like seat belts and all those bureaucrats who manage OSHA
and Product Safety agencies. Bloody waste of money and effort, eh?


Idiot...

On 11/14/2014 2:17 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:24:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:16:36 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:47:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.

Yes, just like seat belts and all those bureaucrats who manage OSHA
and Product Safety agencies. Bloody waste of money and effort, eh?

Bad examples. Certainly we have a seat belt law and thousands of pages
of OSHA regulations but both are universally ignored.
Making the rules tighter and increasing the PPE required, does not
help much for the people who refuse to wear it.

Bullcrap. Seatbelts are universally accepted and between those and
other legislation, have reduced vehicular deaths in accident by 1/3.

Imagine reducing annual death by gun by 1/3. Is that folly?


See, here we go again. Another liberal who is not here to debate, but to
dictate... no compromise, no common sense, only insults and straw men.

On 11/14/2014 2:33 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:22:33 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 01:24:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:16:36 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:47:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.

Yes, just like seat belts and all those bureaucrats who manage OSHA
and Product Safety agencies. Bloody waste of money and effort, eh?

Bad examples. Certainly we have a seat belt law and thousands of pages
of OSHA regulations but both are universally ignored.
Making the rules tighter and increasing the PPE required, does not
help much for the people who refuse to wear it.

Bullcrap. Seatbelts are universally accepted and between those and
other legislation, have reduced vehicular deaths in accident by 1/3.

Imagine reducing annual death by gun by 1/3. Is that folly?

Is this hyperbole, hypothetical or do you have an actual example?


How about when you have two government agencies with regulations
diametrically opposed? When both will sue you for non compliance.

On 11/14/2014 8:07 AM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/14/2014 12:16 AM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:47:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.

Yes, just like seat belts and all those bureaucrats who manage OSHA
and Product Safety agencies. Bloody waste of money and effort, eh?

Hoo boy, here we go again.

Straw men, and red herrings... it's all JPS has. But he is absolutly
sure he is right and willing to say anything to prove his point...

On 11/14/2014 8:21 AM, BAR wrote:
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:47:01 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

I really don't understand how people can be so obstinate about common
sense gun control

Because common criminals don't pay much attention to common sense.
These proposals are not going to do anything but create a new
bureaucracy that doesn't really accomplish anything.

Yes, just like seat belts and all those bureaucrats who manage OSHA
and Product Safety agencies. Bloody waste of money and effort, eh?

Seat belts just moved dead bodies from the morgue to barely living
bodies in the intensive care units. The cost to everyone has gone up
since the seat belt laws came into effect.


Please don't let jps drag this into a seatbelt conversation, he is just
trolling.

On 11/13/2014 11:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 18:15:43 -0800, jps wrote:

The government already knows everything they need to.
Them knowing whether you own a gun isn't going to make any difference
if they decide the constitution is obsolete.

Yeah, yeah. And what good are your guns gonna' do when Martians come
down and attack.. yeah, what are you gonna' do then?

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What you apparently fail to appreciate is that the government is
abrogating the constitution slowly, inches at a time, and always with
seemingly good intentions.