On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:31:51 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2014 12:06 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, November 6, 2014 11:39:26 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert
on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child
being physically abused by a guy.

"Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind
refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know
how to use it."

Having a bad day, luddite? You're kind of being a condescending asshole.



So what? Just trying to adopt the culture of the newsgroup.


There's only one other guy here who continuously employs that
behavior.

I won't mention any names.

On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand.

This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more
than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with
their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because
they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but
simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved.

BTDT... sucks when the vic turns against you. Fortunately, I didn't get
any charges. I was 17 and never got involved again...


As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.

You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here.

On 11/6/2014 12:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand.

This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more
than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with
their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because
they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but
simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved.


As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.

You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here.




Greg, no offense, but you seem to think you are the only person on the
planet who has any experience with violence, police, lawyers, lawsuits
or domestic spats.



I am not getting that from his posts... I think all here have
experienced some level of violence and I think he knows that. I do get
the impression though he may be *one of the few* here who have ever been
in a situation where real gunfire was being exchanged on a "I wanna'
kill you too" level....

On 11/6/2014 12:57 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/6/2014 11:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/6/14 11:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote:

That is what Zimmerman said


Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right
wingers
in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you
are
just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few
others in
that crowd of intellectually disableds.

Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to
get
in a fist fight?
How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy
to beat up?



I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and
some
of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the
guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to
trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were
and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he
missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of
fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I
landed a
Lucky punch.


My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have
never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It
is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy
down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better.
If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you
should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer
ground is you just provoked the fight

Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem
trigger-happy.

All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to
point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have
as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him.

I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what
most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to
remove an unwelcome person from his home)

I hope you get better soon.



Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert
on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child
being physically abused by a guy.

"Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind
refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know
how to use it."




Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.


Hows your "hand" feel today. I'll bey you wished you'd used
your vocabulary to assault the guy instead of your mighty fist. ;-)

How do you assault a set of stairs?

On 11/6/14 1:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:01:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote:

That is what Zimmerman said


Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right wingers
in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you are
just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few others in
that crowd of intellectually disableds.

Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to get
in a fist fight?
How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy
to beat up?



I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and some
of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the
guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to
trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were
and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he
missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of
fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I landed a
Lucky punch.


My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have
never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It
is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy
down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better.
If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you
should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer
ground is you just provoked the fight

Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem trigger-happy.

All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to
point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have
as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him.

I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what
most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to
remove an unwelcome person from his home)

I hope you get better soon.



Thanks. I had and have no concerns about being prosecuted for coming to
the aid of a woman and child being physically abused in a parking lot by
a bully. Nor am I interested in playing "what if" about it.

Maybe you should have just kept the whole 'incident' to yourself?
There would be no 'what if's' then, would there. Of course, the old
narcissism would suffer immensely, eh?


You should consider saving your condescending bull**** for your
condescending bull**** butt buddies here.

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 11/6/14 1:35 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/6/2014 12:57 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/6/2014 11:53 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/6/14 11:39 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote:

That is what Zimmerman said


Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right
wingers
in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you
are
just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few
others in
that crowd of intellectually disableds.

Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to
get
in a fist fight?
How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy
guy
to beat up?



I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and
some
of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for
the
guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to
trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they
were
and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he
missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could.
End of
fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I
landed a
Lucky punch.


My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have
never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It
is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy
down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better.
If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you
should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer
ground is you just provoked the fight

Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem
trigger-happy.

All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to
point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have
as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him.

I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what
most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to
remove an unwelcome person from his home)

I hope you get better soon.



Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert
on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child
being physically abused by a guy.

"Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you
mind
refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know
how to use it."




Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand. As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.


Hows your "hand" feel today. I'll bey you wished you'd used
your vocabulary to assault the guy instead of your mighty fist. ;-)

How do you assault a set of stairs?



Ahh, the two brainless talentless cowards hook up.

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

L'il Snot sneezes..
" How do you assault a set of stairs? "


SNERK!
Is that what they called it when the police introduced you to the station stairwell?
Thanks for reminding me of that.

On 11/6/14 2:09 PM, True North wrote:
L'il Snot sneezes..
" How do you assault a set of stairs?"


SNERK!
Is that what they called it when the police introduced you to the station stairwell?
Thanks for reminding me of that.


Damn! I'd forgotten Little Psycho's "boast" that he was pushed down the
stairs at a local police station. The order day he hinted that he'd
have to get a "pardon" to legally buy a firearm. It's a good thing I did
call the cops on him...

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 11/6/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:46:39 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 12:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:53:59 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Not being a military trained combat warrior like Greg, Herring, FlaGrim,
et al, I'm not afraid to play my hand.

This is not military combat it is urban warfare and I have had more
than my share of getting in the middle of wife/girlfriend spats with
their abusive partner. It is usually an unrewarding encounter because
they seldom change anything. I have been in physical encounters but
simply talking it out works out better for everyone involved.


As I have long suspected, they
are heavily armed...pussies.

You seem to be more heavily armed than anyone else here.



Ahh, but I am not a heavily armed *pussy*, like most of you righties.

It is a brave man who uses language like that on the internet. I am
sure if I was looking you in the eye, you would be more humble.


Please. I've known some really tough guys. You ain't one of them.

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 11/6/2014 2:50 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:44:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2014 12:27 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:39:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2014 10:48 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 06:53:33 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/6/14 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 12:33:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/5/14 11:57 AM, wrote:

That is what Zimmerman said


Gee, Greg, I used to think you were one of the few bright right wingers
in this sea of conservative stupidity, but now I am realizing you are
just as dimwitted as flajim, psychoscotty, herring, and a few others in
that crowd of intellectually disableds.

Are you really saying the only way you could deal with this was to get
in a fist fight?
How would you have dealt with it if this guy was not such an easy guy
to beat up?



I realize I don't have the frontline combat experience of you and some
of the other right-wingers here, so perhaps I should've waited for the
guy to really beat the crap out of that woman. I was not intending to
trade punches with the fellow. I simply walked over to where they were
and asked him to stop. He responded by taking a swing at me and he
missed. My reflexes took over and I hit him as hard as i could. End of
fight. I don't know whether he was easy to beat up or not... I landed a
Lucky punch.


My point and the same thing I said about Zimmerman is you should have
never got close enough to him to allow him to take a swing at you. It
is basic self defense 101. If you were going to try to talk this guy
down, you can do it from 10 feet away, 20 is better.
If your intent was to get in a fight from the beginning, then you
should just go hit the guy. In the end you are not on much firmer
ground is you just provoked the fight

Perhaps you would've stood your ground and shot him. You seem trigger-happy.

All I ever said about this is you could have been shot, other than to
point out that if your "lucky punch" turned out to be fatal, you have
as good a chance of going to jail as if you shot him.

I know a guy who did 7 years in Maryland for a "lucky punch" in what
most people would say was a more justifiable situation (attempting to
remove an unwelcome person from his home)

I hope you get better soon.



Your depth of knowledge is beyond amazing Greg. Now you are an expert
on the proper manner in which to come to the aid of a woman and child
being physically abused by a guy.

"Excuse me sir, (from 20 feet away) not to interrupt, but would you mind
refraining from slapping them around? I have an iPhone here and I know
how to use it."



I have been involved with these things more times than I like to think
about and I know a lot of cops. Women tend to stand by their man, no
matter what a weasel he is.

As for the self defense issue. I have taken the course several times
and they all emphasize, distance is your friend.
If you do not want to end up in a fist fight or a scramble on the
ground, keep some distance.
If you want to fight, just give them your best shot right away and be
prepared to face the consequences.
Just don't be surprised if the woman you "rescued" testifies against
you. She is still going to go home and sleep with the weasel about 90%
of the time. (just look at all of those football players and the women
they beat the **** out of)
This "Don Quixote" stuff is great in the movies but don't count on
Dulcinea taking your side when it is all over.


Yup. We've become a nation governed by political correctness and self
concerns. Let the ones being battered fend for themselves.


No leave it to the police. Being a vigilante is not legal or wise
these days. Ask Zimmerman.

Blame it on the lawyers.



Problem is the police are not always available at the moment of the assault.

If I came upon an altercation with two seemingly equal opponents I'd
likely mind my own business. But, as in the situation Harry came upon,
it involves a guy beating up on a woman and/or child, or someone beating
up on a defenseless elderly person, I'd would do my best to intervene.

How about a situation when someone is being assaulted and crying out
"Help"?