On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

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On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:40:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

I bet that won't be a big seller. When I was walking around in
Colorado, before the general legalization, the dispensaries still
bragged about how powerful their "medicines" were.

Crested Butte was an interesting place. They had 5 streets and 6
dispensaries ... and nobody in a restaurant ever got an order right.

It was the biggest concentration of "sick" people I ever saw. ;-)

Do not know what the drivers illness wis. As to Colorado, they figured big
tax revenues. The legal pot has so many taxes and fees, that it is about
2X the price of pot on the treet. $250 vs. $125 or that range.

On 10/4/2014 12:21 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 05:52:11 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/4/2014 12:08 AM, wrote:

We have medical pot on the ballot this year and Charlie Crist (the H
is silent) has a "hint hint, wink wink" rumor going out that he would
use the most liberal interpretation of that law if he is elected but
he has not actually said a single word about it.
Ambulance chaser and TV lawyer, John Morgan is financing both
amendment 2 and Crist.

The problem is Crist is such a lying weasel, I certainly can't trust
him. Scott is a weasel too so I am not sure if I will vote for either
one.

"It is like picking your favorite Menendez brother" - Joan Rivers

Any politician who says "I love Barak O'Bama" cannot be trusted. What's
in it for Morgan?

I am sure Morgan just wants "his" man in the state house and that is
scary enough. As for the medical pot, I am not sure what Morgan's
connection is but I would want to follow the money. He probably has a
link to the potential producers or distributors.

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.


Many companies drug test the young kids before hiring them, don't care
if you have a med card, you smoke pot, you don't work there... period. I
assume it's more of an insurance consideration than anything else. Last
thing an employer wants is the insurance company to find out the worker
who just filed a claim smokes pot, legally, or not...

On 10/4/2014 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 15:15:52 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:


As to Colorado, they figured big
tax revenues. The legal pot has so many taxes and fees, that it is about
2X the price of pot on the treet. $250 vs. $125 or that range.

A guy I know in Boulder seems to think it may be twice as good as the
regular ragweed on the street.

Evidently a little dab will do ya and a joint would put you in a coma.

It has been so long for me, just watching someone smoke might give me
a buzz. Back in the old $10 a bag days I am not sure there was hardly
any THC in the leaves, sticks and seeds we sorted through. I know I
never saw one of those fuzzy buds you see on TV now.



I "came of age" in the 60's. You either became a hippy or remained a
carry over from the greaser days of the 50's. I guess I was the latter.
Never grew my hair long or got into the psychedelic thing. Stayed
clear of drugs when I started college and then in the military. I was
more of a professional beer drinker when I was younger. Funny though, I
noticed over the years that the old farts (60 or over) didn't drink beer
often. Then, as I approached 60 I began to understand why. I still
love the taste of a cold Sam Adams but it no longer likes me. Get gassy
and bloated feeling and feel like crap, so I basically gave it up. The
light beers like Coors Lite taste like ****, so I rarely drink any.
I'll have one or two every 3 months or so and I usually regret it
afterwards. Never developed a taste for the "hard stuff".

I never got into the drug scene. I tried pot once or twice in high
school but I really didn't like the feeling it gave me. During my
working career some of the defense contracts we had required security
clearances and drug testing so it wasn't worth the risk of experimenting.

Once, after some oral surgery, I took an Oxycontin that the dentist
prescribed. I think I had a plastic bottle containing ten of them.
I took one and did not like the feeling it produced. Flushed the rest
down the toilet the next morning.

The only pills I take are aspirin and even those I don't take often.
Probably two every two months if I have a headache.

I had plenty of opportunities at the guitar shop, that's for sure.
Had a guy come in one day. I knew him pretty well. He wanted to
purchase a particular guitar but was about $150 short of the asking
price. He pulled a big bag of pot out of his pocket and asked if I'd
accept it towards the guitar. Cracked me up. Told him, "No thanks, I
am allergic to the ****".

On 10/4/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual
medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

Talk about "tin hat" lol.. if there is, a true CBD form that doesn't get
you high, I guarantee it's a one off product like the one going through
the courts now for a 7 year old kid... Medical MJ is a joke, maybe 1% of
users really "need" THC or CBD... The rest just want to get stoned..

On 10/4/2014 4:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:40:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

I bet that won't be a big seller. When I was walking around in
Colorado, before the general legalization, the dispensaries still
bragged about how powerful their "medicines" were.

Crested Butte was an interesting place. They had 5 streets and 6
dispensaries ... and nobody in a restaurant ever got an order right.

It was the biggest concentration of "sick" people I ever saw. ;-)

Do not know what the drivers illness wis. As to Colorado, they figured big
tax revenues. The legal pot has so many taxes and fees, that it is about
2X the price of pot on the treet. $250 vs. $125 or that range.


My God, why don't you all check your facts... I know a lot about the
business, my kids best friends sister owns one of the biggest, most
popular "dispenseries" in Colorado.... Your numbers are made for tv news...

On 10/4/2014 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 15:15:52 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:


As to Colorado, they figured big
tax revenues. The legal pot has so many taxes and fees, that it is about
2X the price of pot on the treet. $250 vs. $125 or that range.

A guy I know in Boulder seems to think it may be twice as good as the
regular ragweed on the street.

Evidently a little dab will do ya and a joint would put you in a coma.

It has been so long for me, just watching someone smoke might give me
a buzz. Back in the old $10 a bag days I am not sure there was hardly
any THC in the leaves, sticks and seeds we sorted through. I know I
never saw one of those fuzzy buds you see on TV now.


Those fuzzy buds are on the street now for between 4-500 an ounce... I
know a "legal" card holder in CT, a 55 Year old retired doctor with MS,
and she is paying between 550-800 an ounce for "the fuzzy stuff"... I
set her up with a freind of a friend who gets it to her for about 300,
that has changed her life... Like I said though, she is the only Med MJ
user I know that is for real, nobody else in her family smokes and she
uses it exclusively for a muscle relaxer...

On 10/4/2014 7:50 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/4/2014 1:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual
medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

Talk about "tin hat" lol.. if there is, a true CBD form that doesn't get
you high, I guarantee it's a one off product like the one going through
the courts now for a 7 year old kid... Medical MJ is a joke, maybe 1% of
users really "need" THC or CBD... The rest just want to get stoned..


So let them. I have nothing against casual pot smokers. Better than
drunks.

BTW ... what does a "tin hat" have to do with my comment? All I said is
that some forms of medicinal pot does not get you high. There have been
several reports on it's success.

On 10/4/2014 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 16:59:32 -0400, KC wrote:

Many companies drug test the young kids before hiring them, don't care
if you have a med card, you smoke pot, you don't work there... period. I
assume it's more of an insurance consideration than anything else. Last
thing an employer wants is the insurance company to find out the worker
who just filed a claim smokes pot, legally, or not...

That is true. Insurance is higher for a company that doesn't have a
drug testing program.


I know for a fact.. I have a friend in charge of one of the biggest
MotorCycle retail parts chains in the Country, and that's what he told
me... The test and don't care if you "don't smoke now" a hair test goes
back at least 6 mos, and if you fail, even a little, no hire for you. Of
course the other half of that equation is your credit report.. which he
indicated carried more weight, however "more weight" doesn't mean much
when the drug policy is zero tolerance... You can be a drunk though....

On 10/4/2014 7:52 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/4/2014 4:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 13:40:27 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/4/2014 12:57 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2014 11:21:50 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Some radio show was telling about, I think UPS driver with actual
medical
condition and pot prescription. Was fired because UPS has Federal
contracts and is still illegal Federally.

Would you want a stoned guy driving your truck?
Could the cops still cite him for DUI? (that is yes)
This is far from a settled issue. It will still be up to employers
whether failing a **** quiz is grounds for termination.
I am not sure I would want a stoned employee working for me and that
would include pot, heroin or (legal) prescription pills.
If they have a little lapse and get hurt or hurt someone else, you
are
still liable.

Speed might be OK tho ;-)

He did not use it at work they said.



At least some forms of medical pot doesn't get you high.

I bet that won't be a big seller. When I was walking around in
Colorado, before the general legalization, the dispensaries still
bragged about how powerful their "medicines" were.

Crested Butte was an interesting place. They had 5 streets and 6
dispensaries ... and nobody in a restaurant ever got an order right.

It was the biggest concentration of "sick" people I ever saw. ;-)

Do not know what the drivers illness wis. As to Colorado, they
figured big
tax revenues. The legal pot has so many taxes and fees, that it is about
2X the price of pot on the treet. $250 vs. $125 or that range.


My God, why don't you all check your facts... I know a lot about the
business, my kids best friends sister owns one of the biggest, most
popular "dispenseries" in Colorado.... Your numbers are made for tv news...


Ah, the rec.boats pot expert speaks.