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As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On 10/2/2014 8:17 AM, KC wrote:
On 10/1/2014 11:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: In fact, the networking and peer connections that Wayne speaks of is probably why we have so many incompetents in high places. Isn't that what I just said? Good for the rich kids, not so good for society....?? Relax Scott. |
As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On 10/2/2014 10:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 8:12 AM, KC wrote: On 10/1/2014 10:46 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/1/2014 10:13 PM, KC wrote: On 10/1/2014 10:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:45:41 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: People who struggled through school attending community colleges and then continue on to a four year degree are just as valuable (if not more) to most employers than the graduate of a prestigious Ivy League University. === People who graduate from a first rate (prestigious) school gain access to a vast network of peer acquaintances and referrals however. That can be priceless. It's called "pay to play".. it keeps the riff-raff on the outside. On the whole it's great for those who can afford it, but probably not so great for society in general as it keeps a lot of the creme from rising to the top... The vast majority of college grads did not attend Ivy League schools. If you plan to be a lawyer, doctor or politician I guess it's important but to the average work-a-bee the school you attended doesn't mean as much as the fact that you have a relevant degree. I was answering the post above me which was in reference to "first rate (prestigious) school"... try to keep up, instead of just looking to contradict me personally. Scott, my comment was a general one in response to the discussion of schools and education. It was directed at no one. Your paranoia and feelings of persecution are flaring up again. Paranoia? No, just trying to keep some continuity in the thread... |
As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On 10/2/2014 10:04 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 8:17 AM, KC wrote: On 10/1/2014 11:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: In fact, the networking and peer connections that Wayne speaks of is probably why we have so many incompetents in high places. Isn't that what I just said? Good for the rich kids, not so good for society....?? Relax Scott. perfectly relaxed, just contributing to the conversation... |
As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
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As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
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As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
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As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On 10/2/14 1:03 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:19:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:49:42 -0400, wrote: You have to note that Germany also decides at a fairly early age who is not going to college. They get sent off the trades schools or just get taught how a mop works. Someone who is a "late bloomer" is going to be putting wheels on Volkswagens or sweeping up the shop. That is one reason why K-12 students apply themselves more than they do in the US. That's true in much of Europe, but here the liberals would be the first to whine about the loss of civil rights if we made 'free' college dependant upon achievement. My Dutch friend's grandson finished his big tests last spring for the university. He didn't do well enough. He gets one more chance, after a lot of summer school, which is not free. Oh no! Not the "T" word. The teachers union does not want us to actually test how well our students are learning. They also do not want to be paid based on performance, only time in grade and post graduate education (paid for by the school system). Guess they don't trust you to measure performance. Hardly surprising. The problem with the "performance testing" is that too much of it is dependent upon rote memory. It does not test whether the kids are learning how to think. The other major problem, of course, is that it penalizes teachers (scapegoats) for situations entirely beyond their control, such as a bad home environment. Another problem: sometimes a good teacher is replaced mid-semester by a retired racist old Army fart who does his best to see that minority kids fail. |
As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On 10/2/14 2:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 12:03:28 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:19:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:49:42 -0400, wrote: You have to note that Germany also decides at a fairly early age who is not going to college. They get sent off the trades schools or just get taught how a mop works. Someone who is a "late bloomer" is going to be putting wheels on Volkswagens or sweeping up the shop. That is one reason why K-12 students apply themselves more than they do in the US. That's true in much of Europe, but here the liberals would be the first to whine about the loss of civil rights if we made 'free' college dependant upon achievement. My Dutch friend's grandson finished his big tests last spring for the university. He didn't do well enough. He gets one more chance, after a lot of summer school, which is not free. Oh no! Not the "T" word. The teachers union does not want us to actually test how well our students are learning. They also do not want to be paid based on performance, only time in grade and post graduate education (paid for by the school system). Guess they don't trust you to measure performance. Hardly surprising. Who said anything about ME measuring anything except the insanities brought by the unions. We were talking about 3d party testing of the students. At least you are consistent in your obvious *and* subtle arguments to turn workers into "at will" serfs, under the total domination of "corporations uber alles," and by corporations I mean employers. |
As the U.S. continues its slide into the abyss...
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:38:53 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:19:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 10:49:42 -0400, wrote: You have to note that Germany also decides at a fairly early age who is not going to college. They get sent off the trades schools or just get taught how a mop works. Someone who is a "late bloomer" is going to be putting wheels on Volkswagens or sweeping up the shop. That is one reason why K-12 students apply themselves more than they do in the US. That's true in much of Europe, but here the liberals would be the first to whine about the loss of civil rights if we made 'free' college dependant upon achievement. My Dutch friend's grandson finished his big tests last spring for the university. He didn't do well enough. He gets one more chance, after a lot of summer school, which is not free. Oh no! Not the "T" word. The teachers union does not want us to actually test how well our students are learning. They also do not want to be paid based on performance, only time in grade and post graduate education (paid for by the school system). Absolutely correct. Been there and seen that. |
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