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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
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Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up with
our level of military waste? Do you think either of them envision a
shooting war against the United States?


I think they envision a shooting war with Muslim's!
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On 9/3/2014 3:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up with
our level of military waste? Do you think either of them envision a
shooting war against the United States?


I think they envision a shooting war with Muslim's!


I think they envision doing what ever the **** they want and not having
to worry a lick about us... or what we think...
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On 9/3/2014 3:31 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up
with our level of military waste? Do you think either of them envision a
shooting war against the United States?



China is specifically investing in anti-ship systems, anti-submarine
(detection) systems plus a build schedule of new ships, including air
craft carriers. They are also developing their own version of the F-35
that reportedly may be a superior aircraft.

Russia is also investing heavily in their Navy, with a very ambitious
build schedule.

Our Navy has been reduced to that of the Carter administration. (under
300 ships). An overall scale back of personnel has begun that will put
overall military numbers at pre-WWII levels.




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On 9/3/14 3:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:31 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more
militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up
with our level of military waste? Do you think either of them envision a
shooting war against the United States?



China is specifically investing in anti-ship systems, anti-submarine
(detection) systems plus a build schedule of new ships, including air
craft carriers. They are also developing their own version of the F-35
that reportedly may be a superior aircraft.

Russia is also investing heavily in their Navy, with a very ambitious
build schedule.

Our Navy has been reduced to that of the Carter administration. (under
300 ships). An overall scale back of personnel has begun that will put
overall military numbers at pre-WWII levels.



So? Who are we going to fight? The Russians? The Chinese? Qatar?
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On 9/3/2014 4:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:31 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more
militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up
with our level of military waste? Do you think either of them envision a
shooting war against the United States?



China is specifically investing in anti-ship systems, anti-submarine
(detection) systems plus a build schedule of new ships, including air
craft carriers. They are also developing their own version of the F-35
that reportedly may be a superior aircraft.

Russia is also investing heavily in their Navy, with a very ambitious
build schedule.

Our Navy has been reduced to that of the Carter administration. (under
300 ships). An overall scale back of personnel has begun that will put
overall military numbers at pre-WWII levels.



So? Who are we going to fight? The Russians? The Chinese? Qatar?



Harry, having "the biggest, baddest military in the world" usually
means you don't have to fight.
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On 9/3/14 4:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 4:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 3:31 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 3:27 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/3/2014 2:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/3/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 12:02:54 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Unfortunately these drone strikes are not nearly as surgical as
the
government would have you believe. We are creating far more
militants
than we kill.

And far less than troops on the ground. Pick your poison.

I just think the psychological effect of drones is the opposite of
what we want.
We act like there is some kind of Yamamoto out there that will
seriously degrade their capability if we kill him.
The reality is the knowledge is pretty freely disseminated among the
gangs and there is no one single leader or mechanic who is key to
the
operation. We only make martyrs. When we take out a bunch of
innocents, it is just a recruiting tool. I suppose we can just kill
them all but there is over a billion of them world wide


That is correct. Having the biggest, baddest military in the world is
not relevant anymore.


Why is Russia spending whatever it can on revitalizing and expanding
it's military?

Why is China investing heavily into an expanded and modern Navy and
Air
Force?



Do you know how much they'd have to be spending annually to catch up
with our level of military waste? Do you think either of them
envision a
shooting war against the United States?



China is specifically investing in anti-ship systems, anti-submarine
(detection) systems plus a build schedule of new ships, including air
craft carriers. They are also developing their own version of the F-35
that reportedly may be a superior aircraft.

Russia is also investing heavily in their Navy, with a very ambitious
build schedule.

Our Navy has been reduced to that of the Carter administration. (under
300 ships). An overall scale back of personnel has begun that will put
overall military numbers at pre-WWII levels.



So? Who are we going to fight? The Russians? The Chinese? Qatar?



Harry, having "the biggest, baddest military in the world" usually
means you don't have to fight.



Oh. Really? Then...why have we engaged in warmaking for many of the
decades after the end of WWII?
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