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On 8/28/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:43:16 -0400, KC wrote:

That is the kind of pump I am thinking of putting in... Run the
compressor a couple times a week and fill the 250 gallon tank in the
basement. They are becoming more popular in dry areas and can be run
with a lot less power than a 3/4 horse, 240v pump..

I bet it is not that much less. You still bump up against physics.


Yeah, and I can't afford a learning curve..


You can do some rough calculations based on the cu/ft per min of the
compressor at 100 PSI (roughly 200' head) and convert that to gpm of
the water at 8 times that but I doubt it actually works that
efficiently. This would be the max possible.



That sounds about right, the video I saw had a 200 foot well with 85
psi, and it was glugging a cup and a half glug, every few seconds... the
guy said it was doing about 4 gpm.. Most of the vids I have seen look
pretty stable as to the concept. The flow is not steady, and I am sure
it's noisy, but it does seem to work with very simple setup. Another
concern is water level in the well, there needs to be a few feet of pipe
below the air inlet on the pipe for it to work right. At the same time I
am still working on getting that old pipe out. Got the Tee you
recommended on today, and will try to pull the cap when I get home
tonight and can build a staging to hold the pipe and tee....
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On 8/28/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:43:16 -0400, KC wrote:

That is the kind of pump I am thinking of putting in... Run the
compressor a couple times a week and fill the 250 gallon tank in the
basement. They are becoming more popular in dry areas and can be run
with a lot less power than a 3/4 horse, 240v pump..

I bet it is not that much less. You still bump up against physics.


Yeah, and I can't afford a learning curve..


You can do some rough calculations based on the cu/ft per min of the
compressor at 100 PSI (roughly 200' head) and convert that to gpm of
the water at 8 times that but I doubt it actually works that
efficiently. This would be the max possible.



That sounds about right, the video I saw had a 200 foot well with 85 psi,
and it was glugging a cup and a half glug, every few seconds... the guy
said it was doing about 4 gpm.. Most of the vids I have seen look pretty
stable as to the concept. The flow is not steady, and I am sure it's
noisy, but it does seem to work with very simple setup. Another concern
is water level in the well, there needs to be a few feet of pipe below
the air inlet on the pipe for it to work right. At the same time I am
still working on getting that old pipe out. Got the Tee you recommended
on today, and will try to pull the cap when I get home tonight and can
build a staging to hold the pipe and tee....


When I hand bored a 43' well at my last house, I used a couple 2x4's with a
hinge and a hole drilled the size of the pipe to clamp around the pipe as I
pulled the 10' sections. But I had a pipe flange connecting the sections
while drilling. So maybe you could modify, and wrap a length of chain
around the pipe and let the chain rest against the wood while splitting the
pipes.
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On 8/28/2014 1:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 8/28/2014 11:46 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:43:16 -0400, KC wrote:

That is the kind of pump I am thinking of putting in... Run the
compressor a couple times a week and fill the 250 gallon tank in the
basement. They are becoming more popular in dry areas and can be run
with a lot less power than a 3/4 horse, 240v pump..

I bet it is not that much less. You still bump up against physics.


Yeah, and I can't afford a learning curve..

You can do some rough calculations based on the cu/ft per min of the
compressor at 100 PSI (roughly 200' head) and convert that to gpm of
the water at 8 times that but I doubt it actually works that
efficiently. This would be the max possible.



That sounds about right, the video I saw had a 200 foot well with 85 psi,
and it was glugging a cup and a half glug, every few seconds... the guy
said it was doing about 4 gpm.. Most of the vids I have seen look pretty
stable as to the concept. The flow is not steady, and I am sure it's
noisy, but it does seem to work with very simple setup. Another concern
is water level in the well, there needs to be a few feet of pipe below
the air inlet on the pipe for it to work right. At the same time I am
still working on getting that old pipe out. Got the Tee you recommended
on today, and will try to pull the cap when I get home tonight and can
build a staging to hold the pipe and tee....


When I hand bored a 43' well at my last house, I used a couple 2x4's with a
hinge and a hole drilled the size of the pipe to clamp around the pipe as I
pulled the 10' sections. But I had a pipe flange connecting the sections
while drilling. So maybe you could modify, and wrap a length of chain
around the pipe and let the chain rest against the wood while splitting the
pipes.


Another good idea.. I have to decide soon, need to get this thing out.
Hey, anybody know if I am gonna' need a permit to change the pump?
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On 8/28/2014 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:12:18 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/28/2014 11:46 AM,
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:43:16 -0400, KC wrote:

That is the kind of pump I am thinking of putting in... Run the
compressor a couple times a week and fill the 250 gallon tank in the
basement. They are becoming more popular in dry areas and can be run
with a lot less power than a 3/4 horse, 240v pump..

I bet it is not that much less. You still bump up against physics.


Yeah, and I can't afford a learning curve..

You can do some rough calculations based on the cu/ft per min of the
compressor at 100 PSI (roughly 200' head) and convert that to gpm of
the water at 8 times that but I doubt it actually works that
efficiently. This would be the max possible.



That sounds about right, the video I saw had a 200 foot well with 85
psi, and it was glugging a cup and a half glug, every few seconds... the
guy said it was doing about 4 gpm.. Most of the vids I have seen look
pretty stable as to the concept. The flow is not steady, and I am sure
it's noisy, but it does seem to work with very simple setup. Another
concern is water level in the well, there needs to be a few feet of pipe
below the air inlet on the pipe for it to work right. At the same time I
am still working on getting that old pipe out. Got the Tee you
recommended on today, and will try to pull the cap when I get home
tonight and can build a staging to hold the pipe and tee....


If you have air, it might be worth trying to get as much water out of
that pipe as possible.,

I am not sure about where the water comes out. Down here the water
would come up the pipe in your picture. It doesn't freeze here. If you
are coming out 4' below grade, you will have to dig that out and cut
it before you can do anything


Yeah, that's what I figured... that's gonna' be a bitch.


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