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On 8/25/14 11:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 21:47:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/25/14 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:04:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Cuba Right-wing dictator ...

Replaced by a left wing dictator for the last 54 years

Vietnam Right-wing dictator

Communist oligarchy for the last 40 years

Iran Right-wing dictator

Theocracy for the last 40 years

Iraq Apolitical (by our standards) dictator

Theocratic oligarchy

South Korea Right-wing dictator

I am not sure why this is on the list. It is as close to a real
democracy as you get in that region other than Japan. The government
was established by Eisenhower.

It has become more democratic over the years. For decades after the
Korean War, it was not.

That is the way it works isn't it?
The US is far more democratic than it was at the end of 18th century
and again more than the end of the 19th century.

And far less than it was before 1980, when wealth began to be overly
concentrated in the pockets of the wealthy.

F*O*A*D

On 8/26/14 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:52:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/25/14 11:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 21:47:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/25/14 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:04:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Cuba Right-wing dictator ...

Replaced by a left wing dictator for the last 54 years

Vietnam Right-wing dictator

Communist oligarchy for the last 40 years

Iran Right-wing dictator

Theocracy for the last 40 years

Iraq Apolitical (by our standards) dictator

Theocratic oligarchy

South Korea Right-wing dictator

I am not sure why this is on the list. It is as close to a real
democracy as you get in that region other than Japan. The government
was established by Eisenhower.

It has become more democratic over the years. For decades after the
Korean War, it was not.

That is the way it works isn't it?
The US is far more democratic than it was at the end of 18th century
and again more than the end of the 19th century.

And far less than it was before 1980, when wealth began to be overly
concentrated in the pockets of the wealthy.

Which time in our history did the citizens as a whole have it better?

As for democracy (the subject at hand)
Is anyone restricting your rights to vote?
Virtually everything I hear about "voter rights" these days is better
described as voter convenience.
In most states you never need to get off the ****ing couch to vote.
If people are to stupid or lazy to fill out a mail in ballot, I don't
want them voting anyway.

Before 1980.

F*O*A*D

On 8/27/14 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:51:04 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Which time in our history did the citizens as a whole have it better?

As for democracy (the subject at hand)
Is anyone restricting your rights to vote?
Virtually everything I hear about "voter rights" these days is better
described as voter convenience.
In most states you never need to get off the ****ing couch to vote.
If people are to stupid or lazy to fill out a mail in ballot, I don't
want them voting anyway.

Before 1980.

I see you have chosen not to defend this brain fart.

Before 1980 the polls were onl;y open on Tuesday, you had to go there
and you still needed ID (no early voting, very restrictive rules on
absentee ballots etc).
If you go back a decade or two large classes of people could not go at
all and if you want to go back farther than that women, native
Americans, illiterates, people who could not afford the poll tax and
blacks couldn't vote.
We have had a pretty steady increase in voter rights for over 200
years.

The Repugnants are doing their best to reverse that.

And your posit was about whether citizens have it better. Later you
added the voting part. In an actual debate, you'd be laughed off the stage.

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