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On Friday, August 22, 2014 11:06:09 PM UTC-4, KC wrote:
On 8/22/2014 9:19 PM, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. You see it a lot different than I, but then again... Anyway, it's clear the cop went to get out of his car and got his face smashed in the medical report shows bruising around the face and head, and a smashed eye socket.... There is proof according to the investigation that the kids hand was probably on the weapon when it went off in the car, (skin in the slide?). The kid ran out and the cop said stop, the kid turned around and bum rushed the cop. The cop fired at center mass with the first two going in the forward arm and hand, and entering the body, the kid started falling as he was rushing forward which would account for the shots (still at centermass) into the face, and the last one entering the top of the head... the autopsy does not make determinations, but it supports my theory as much as any other.. and when you take into consideration the witnesses that were not involved in the robbery and thugging, it all adds up... And as to your bs about "no cop could feel threatened" yeah, a guy just beat the **** out of you, reached for your gun, he's huge and he's coming back for another go at you and you and your gun, but no, you won't feel threatened... You are just a racist, and that's how you are gonna' see this case... Period... Very plausible and well said. |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:18:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/23/2014 1:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. I suppose it all depends on the first autopsy. If there was GSR in his hair, this may be a good shoot. I bet those last flurry of shots took less than 2 seconds with very little thinking between the first and last shot There's something screwy about this whole incident but few facts are known ... or have been released to the public. A "gentle giant" typically doesn't rob from stores, shove a proprietor half his size into display shelving and then, as he is leaving, turns to approach the proprietor again in a menacing manner. There have been some reports about finding pot in his systems. I don't know if those reports have been confirmed. But if this "gentle giant" was stealing a box of cigars to fill with PCP laced pot, it could explain a bunch of things. From what I've read that combination of drugs can result in a sense of invulnerability and power. Given the emotion charged atmosphere surrounding this event, I have a hunch we will never know the truth. It's going to get politically controlled. The cop *has* to be charged or there will be riots that will make the protests to date look like a community picnic. Some video and pictures of the 'gentle giant'. http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/08/surveillance-video-picture-didnt-show-michael-brown-goes-gangsta/ |
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On 8/23/2014 3:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Friday, August 22, 2014 11:06:09 PM UTC-4, KC wrote: On 8/22/2014 9:19 PM, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. You see it a lot different than I, but then again... Anyway, it's clear the cop went to get out of his car and got his face smashed in the medical report shows bruising around the face and head, and a smashed eye socket.... There is proof according to the investigation that the kids hand was probably on the weapon when it went off in the car, (skin in the slide?). The kid ran out and the cop said stop, the kid turned around and bum rushed the cop. The cop fired at center mass with the first two going in the forward arm and hand, and entering the body, the kid started falling as he was rushing forward which would account for the shots (still at centermass) into the face, and the last one entering the top of the head... the autopsy does not make determinations, but it supports my theory as much as any other.. and when you take into consideration the witnesses that were not involved in the robbery and thugging, it all adds up... And as to your bs about "no cop could feel threatened" yeah, a guy just beat the **** out of you, reached for your gun, he's huge and he's coming back for another go at you and you and your gun, but no, you won't feel threatened... You are just a racist, and that's how you are gonna' see this case... Period... Very plausible and well said. Thank you. |
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On 8/23/2014 2:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/23/2014 1:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. I suppose it all depends on the first autopsy. If there was GSR in his hair, this may be a good shoot. I bet those last flurry of shots took less than 2 seconds with very little thinking between the first and last shot There's something screwy about this whole incident but few facts are known ... or have been released to the public. A "gentle giant" typically doesn't rob from stores, shove a proprietor half his size into display shelving and then, as he is leaving, turns to approach the proprietor again in a menacing manner. There have been some reports about finding pot in his systems. I don't know if those reports have been confirmed. But if this "gentle giant" was stealing a box of cigars to fill with PCP laced pot, it could explain a bunch of things. From what I've read that combination of drugs can result in a sense of invulnerability and power. Given the emotion charged atmosphere surrounding this event, I have a hunch we will never know the truth. It's going to get politically controlled. The cop *has* to be charged or there will be riots that will make the protests to date look like a community picnic. Let them riot, bring in force till they stop rioting and/or the locals get tired of the outsiders who are inciting, it will end and we go in and rebuild.. Sharpton gets richer... everyone has a new cause. The cops life and freedom are more important than those who would loot stores anyway... |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:53 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. Please explain the cops injuries to his head and face, which occurred prior to the cop shooting the 6'4" 300 man. Not the issue. By *all* accounts, the kid was retreating. You cannot shoot an unarmed person while they're retreating, it's murder. |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 13:21:36 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. I suppose it all depends on the first autopsy. If there was GSR in his hair, this may be a good shoot. I bet those last flurry of shots took less than 2 seconds with very little thinking between the first and last shot Doesn't matter. Each shot is treated as a separate decision. From the time the kid was 20' away, the cop was not in danger and his life was not being threatened. Any reasonable jury will find the cop guilty of murder, it's just a matter of which flavor. In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first degree. |
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On 8/23/2014 1:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 13:18:53 -0600, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 8/22/2014 1:08 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/22/14 3:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/22/2014 2:36 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 8/22/2014 11:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/22/2014 10:18 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 8/22/2014 12:40 AM, wrote: On Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:52:03 PM UTC-4, KC wrote: Did I ask a question? Did you call a name? Seriously Dick, get over it.. You ain't gonna' shoot nobody here :) Unless, like krause...he shoots off his big mouth. Enough out of you, Shirley. slammer is the only permanent resident in my Bozo Bin. Surprised he's still here sharing his eloquent and thoughtful views. I figured he would have been institutionalized by now. In my opinion, a bozo bin serves no useful purpose other than to let the binned one know you find him offensive. I love it when Harry makes a point of calling roll of his bozo bin. How else would I know that my needling him is extremely effective? I don't find any value or benefit in reading the rantings of a perverted and obsessed lunatic looking for attention. Slammer's posts are a waste of electrons. I have the same opinion of those in my bozo bin...a waste of time and electrons. Roll call time Krause is the only one I know who 'manages' his 'bozo bin' to the point of know everything and anything anyone in his 'bin' has ever said. What a mind. His mind isn't so special. He has everything ever written on rec.boats, indexed by key words, on his servers and synced to every piece of Applecrap he owns. |
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On 8/23/2014 12:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/23/2014 1:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:19:10 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. I suppose it all depends on the first autopsy. If there was GSR in his hair, this may be a good shoot. I bet those last flurry of shots took less than 2 seconds with very little thinking between the first and last shot There's something screwy about this whole incident but few facts are known ... or have been released to the public. A "gentle giant" typically doesn't rob from stores, shove a proprietor half his size into display shelving and then, as he is leaving, turns to approach the proprietor again in a menacing manner. There have been some reports about finding pot in his systems. I don't know if those reports have been confirmed. But if this "gentle giant" was stealing a box of cigars to fill with PCP laced pot, it could explain a bunch of things. From what I've read that combination of drugs can result in a sense of invulnerability and power. Given the emotion charged atmosphere surrounding this event, I have a hunch we will never know the truth. It's going to get politically controlled. The cop *has* to be charged or there will be riots that will make the protests to date look like a community picnic. Sounds like a replay of the trevor martin shooting, except that Zimm got lucky with one shot and didn't get carried away with a barrage of bullets. |
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:02:48 -0700, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:53 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:26:47 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:11:46 -0700, jps wrote: The only problem I have with the mess in Missouri is they picked the wrong case to go off on. The guy they choked to death in New York is a better case. Of course you also have Diallo who was shot 41 times. The problem is they are both in New York, a bluer than blue city in a blue state. Also the densest population area in the country. Two incidents like this could happen in the middle of different states if you spread NY out. The issue is supposed to be an egregious abuse of police power. Is that excused if it is the big city? What's your comment about blue city suppose to indicate? You think cops in NY are more likely to be R's or Ds? R's constitute 33% of the population in NYC. I only question why they single out this incident and ignore far worse ones. Were the looking for a red state to drive this issue? This really looks like it might turn out to be a good shoot just a bad shot. Six rounds only inflicted 2 serious wounds and 3 went on into the environment somewhere. Good thing this was a less populated area or we would have had bystanders hit. I suppose he might have been hurt in the "scuffle" in the car enough to affect his aim but that helps the officer. Crock o' Poop. The cop was 20-25 feet away when he shot 3 or 4 additional rounds after the kid was hit. The last shot entered the top of his skull, meaning that he was bending forward and going down. No cop could argue that he felt his life was being threatened. The cop will be guilty of murder, which variety is yet to be known. Please explain the cops injuries to his head and face, which occurred prior to the cop shooting the 6'4" 300 man. Not the issue. By *all* accounts, the kid was retreating. You cannot shoot an unarmed person while they're retreating, it's murder. Who accounts for *all*? His heisting buddy? That would be like Krause proclaiming your 'all about oil' claim to be true. |
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