On 6/16/2014 1:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 12:37 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says...


I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising
posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home" newsgroup
is dead, dead, dead.

Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal
would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?"
Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead.
Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous".
It's just fact.
Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums.
There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful
information, and are willing to do so.
That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard.
Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show.
But nobody is here against their will.



I haven't seen any "useful" boating information posted here in years.

Some years ago, Richard posted some interesting videos of a voyage he
took in the Navigator he used to own. Before he died, Skipper posted
some interesting and useful videos on trailering. We had a couple of
real dealer/repair guys here, but the crazies chased them off.

I never said or implied "boating" was dead, although it is pretty much
dead in rec.boats. I find it amusing the rec.boats.cruising guys
crosspost here because there is nothing going on there. I guess they
don't know there is nothing going on here, either.

The best boating posts are on the web forums.

I don't have any use for "Captain Neal," but, unlike the majority of
right-wing clowns here on rec.boats, at least he has a boat, apparently
it floats, and he spends time on it.



He lives, eats, sleeps, and poops, on it. His boat isn't the only thing
floating at his anchorage. Do you think he's an environment friendly
kind of guy? Are you an environment friendly kind of guy?

On 6/16/2014 1:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/16/14, 12:43 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:37:09 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...


I do find it humorous that of late a couple of rec.boats.cruising
posters are now posting/crossposting here because their "home"
newsgroup
is dead, dead, dead.

Why would you find it humorous that an attention-seeker like Neal
would crosspost? Or that the cruising group is "dead?"
Newsgroups are dead only because former participants are dead.
Usenet isn't what is used to be. That's not "humorous".
It's just fact.
Boating is alive. There are plenty of active web forums.
There are a few experienced boaters here who can provide some useful
information, and are willing to do so.
That would be Wayne, Greg, Richard.
Otherwise, this is a mostly a political clown and insult show.
But nobody is here against their will.


You seem to have missed Harry's stated goal - the demise of this
newsgroup.


Wrong as usual, John the Racist. I just want to be here for its death. I
don't wish for it.

Just like hockey fans don't want to see a little blood once in a while.

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:09 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/16/2014 8:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make?

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His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will
feel compelled to talk with him.

How pathetic. Maybe he should take up a hobby or two.

===

A hobby would force him to confront his basic incompetence.

On 6/16/2014 5:31 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 12:54:09 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/16/2014 8:56 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 05:32:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Harry do you really have to inject political blather into every post you make?

===

His specialty is making himself irritating enough that someone will
feel compelled to talk with him.

How pathetic. Maybe he should take up a hobby or two.

===

A hobby would force him to confront his basic incompetence.

You mean like when he had a gun hobby and had to have the smith rig the
CZ so it almost shot itself without Harry's intervention.

On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in
use is never folded down after it is installed.

Dodgers don't fold down.

Ian

On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:44:42 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote:

On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in
use is never folded down after it is installed.

Dodgers don't fold down.


Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down.

http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm

"Traditional Dodger: Traditional dodgers are just that. They are an
old design that has sufficed for many years. They are generally a two
bow frame and a one piece canvas cover. They were designed to fold
forward out of the way when not in use. Unfortunately this puts folds
and wrinkles in the clear vinyl windows and renders them unusable to
see through."

The part about putting wrinkles in the vinyl and rendering them
unusable is rubbish. If one is careful folding them down and
smoothly flakes the vinyl it will last a lot longer than leaving
the dodger up all the time. It is stupid and lubberly to leave a
dodger up all the time as they are a detriment in fine weather.

--
Sir Gregory

On 01/07/14 00:12, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:44:42 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote:

On 16/06/14 00:58, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in
use is never folded down after it is installed.

Dodgers don't fold down.


Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down.

http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm

Those aren't dodgers.

Ian

On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:15:49 +0100, The Real Doctor
wrote:

Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down.

http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm

Those aren't dodgers.

Ian

===

Here in the US we generally see two types of dodgers for the
companionway: Cruising dodgers and racing dodgers. Cruising dodgers
are much wider, usually the entire width of the coach roof, and
usually not designed to fold down unless the canvas and eisenglasss
have been removed and stowed away. Racing dodgers are much smaller
however and are generally the width of the companionway hatch or only
slightly larger. They are designed to fold down quickly and easily.
Some racing dodgers do not even have eisenglass in the front, only
canvas.

"TonyB" wrote:
"john ashby" wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
The Real Doctor wrote:

Wrong, as traditional dodgers are designed to fold down.

http://www.peckenpaugh.com/Dodgers.htm

Those aren't dodgers.

Here in the US we generally see two types of dodgers for the
companionway: Cruising dodgers and racing dodgers. Cruising dodgers
are much wider, usually the entire width of the coach roof, and usually
not designed to fold down unless the canvas and eisenglasss have been
removed and stowed away. Racing dodgers are much smaller however and
are generally the width of the companionway hatch or only slightly
larger. They are designed to fold down quickly and easily. Some racing
dodgers do not even have eisenglass in the front, only canvas.

Those sound like sprayhoods, not dodgers. We are, once again, two nations
divided by a common language.

Yes they are sprayhoods. Dodgers cover the side rails to hull gap. However,
I am prepared to accept there is a differnce in USA and UK definitions.

In the US they are all called *dodgers* and the ALL can be folded down
by the simple expedient of removing some hardware from the frame
where it attaches to the house. The lame excuse, "they don't fold
down," is just that - a lame excuse for those too lazy to get out of
the way something that is designed to cope with spray when going to
weather and is a detriment to comfort and seeing in hot and dry
weather.

Americans are just plain lazy as well as afflicted by fad thinking.
Dodgers are a fad. Many so-called sailors think a sailboat isn't
complete without one despite the fact many so-called sailors can't
even manage to see past them. So, what do they do? They stand or
they sit on *high chairs* perched on the stern rail so they can
see above yellowed plastic windows.

This is, indeed, a sad state of affairs.

--
Sir Gregory