Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to
think I am totally against them. You would be totally
wrong.

I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that
they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,
especially when going to weather. A properly designed,
fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve
the sailing experience.

Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in
use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,
they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -
a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise
comely vessel.

This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the
front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to
seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave
them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are
designed to fold down with ease?

But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep
a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?

Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your
umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot
sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's
with the dodger misuse fetish?

--
Sir Gregory

On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:
Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to

think I am totally against them. You would be totally

wrong.



I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that

they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,

especially when going to weather. A properly designed,

fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve

the sailing experience.



Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in

use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,

they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -

a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise

comely vessel.



This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the

front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to

seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave

them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are

designed to fold down with ease?



But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep

a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?



Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your

umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot

sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's

with the dodger misuse fetish?



--

Sir Gregory

This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.
He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.
Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.
I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.
I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.
A sensitive nose and a queazy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.

On 6/15/2014 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.

YKW made her feel uncomfortable here.

On 6/15/2014 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.


Most of the women who were here were driven off by our typical liberal
asshole from MD...

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.

====

You're right about Peggie but I believe she has had some health issues
and greatly reduced her participation in all boating forums. She left
rec.boats many years ago because of Harry's taunts and insults.

She wrote a good book however which is available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Get-Rid-Boat-Odors-Aggravation/dp/1892399156

On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.

Nope, the illustrious Capt. Neil run her off.... she was outwitting
him because she knew her **** :-) unlike the Capt. who don't know
****.

See, the **** heads can't abide anyone that actually knows their ****.

--
Cheers,

Miguel

On 6/16/2014 2:22 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jun 2014 17:51:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.

Nope, the illustrious Capt. Neil run her off.... she was outwitting
him because she knew her **** :-) unlike the Capt. who don't know
****.

See, the **** heads can't abide anyone that actually knows their ****.

--
Cheers,

Miguel


Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who
were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'.

On 6/16/14, 9:48 AM, KC wrote:


Capt Neil, and I would assume you are from the cruisers group but we who
were here know what happened here.... Just sayin'.


How's your busted knee, busted heart, and busted brain, Ingerfool?


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

On 6/15/14, 8:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:23:47 PM UTC-7, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 15 June 2014 20:58:02 UTC-3, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. wrote:

Let's talk about sailboat dodgers. You might wish to



think I am totally against them. You would be totally



wrong.







I think sailboat dodgers are a capital idea in that



they serve admirable as spray hoods in adverse weather,



especially when going to weather. A properly designed,



fitted and used dodger can be a real benefit and improve



the sailing experience.







Now, for the bad part. Most every dodger I have seen in



use is never folded down after it is installed. Instead,



they are left permanently in place no matter the weather -



a fading blister that ruins the lines of an otherwise



comely vessel.







This stupidity or sloth causes them to weather and the



front vinyl window to yellow and become an impediment to



seeing forward. Why, I wonder, do so-called sailors leave



them up permanently when most, if not all of them, are



designed to fold down with ease?







But, does anybody else realize how stupid it is to keep



a dodger up all the time even in the best of weather?







Do any of you walk around, rain or shine, with your



umbrellas open? Do you wear your Mac in the hot



sunshine? Galoshes during a drought? So what's



with the dodger misuse fetish?







--



Sir Gregory



This used to be a bit of a pet peeve of mine when I crewed on a friends Mirage 33 sailboat.

He usually had the dodger up to keep his various lady friends comfy on our afternoon sails.

Trouble was, if you sat in the forward area of the cockpit, you were subject to objectionable odors coming from inside the cabin due to the open forward hatch.

I believe the odors came from the unused sanitation holding tank. Back then (and maybe now) you could discharge the head directly into coastal waters so the holding tank was never re-freshed or emptied.

I left that crew before I knew about the free advice offered by Ms Peggy Hall.

A sensitive nose and a queasy stomach in any kind of following sea made many sails less than pleasant for me.

Peggy was a great resource on those subjects. I wish she'd come back. She was very friendly, knowledgeable and generally great to talk with.



She knew her stuff, though I never agreed with her about keeping potable
water on boats. But there aren't enough actual boaters here to interest
anyone who writes seriously on the subject. The majority of posters here
are right-wingers who don't have boats.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!