Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg



Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.


Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.


I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg




Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.



And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to
what, 3,023?

You think the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has certified as safe 3,023
concealable handguns? Name them for us, please. WAFA

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg




Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.


Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.


I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one.

You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you
could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well.

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg




Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.



And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to
what, 3,023?


Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many
guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when I
find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those are
pocket pistols, I don't know.

Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office
of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency.

Please note the sentence in the third paragraph:

"Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply
with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations".

That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved List"
by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also requires
the approval of the Attorney General's office and they disapprove
"Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria they feel like
applying. For example, you will note that there are many GLock models
on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try to buy a Glock here.
Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA compliant. Same with
all the Beretta models.

As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line.
You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded.

I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to
order on-line like just like in about every other state.

But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will
likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future.
Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare.

Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the
particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell:

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past
Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg





Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.


Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.


I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one.

You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you
could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well.


LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house
for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they
all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s).

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:24:56 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:

H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:



Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one

out.



===



That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the

obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and

speculators will be out of the market and things will return to

normal.





I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22

rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500

rounds

for each gun.



I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for

another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very

often

so I suspect my stash will last a while.



What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier

this

week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking

about a

compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had

but

didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous

"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.



I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past

Monday. He

had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and

pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain

but

had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I

liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with

me. Looks identical to this:



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg











Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?

I don't see why not. They're made there.



Maybe it's the size??





I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm

(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.



I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The

fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in

MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for

sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety

design on the CM9.





The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.





Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.





I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one.



You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you

could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well.





LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house

for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they

all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s).



Is that where you keep FlaJim when he visits?
In a respectable area you gotta keep up appearances with the neighbours, you know. ;-)

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 9:02 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.

How did Glock's get on the MA compliant list? Glock's have no external
safety.


To the best of my knowledge there "may" be one Glock model that is MA
compliant and legal to sell to civilians. You may be thinking of the
Law Enforcement Only Glocks. They are on the Approved List but cannot
be sold to civilians. Back in 2004 Glock shipped a bunch of handguns
to MA dealers, many of which were sold. They had to buy them all back
because they weren't MA compliant. The only Glocks you can buy legally
have to been made prior to 1998 and has always been kept within MA.

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/14, 10:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one
out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500
rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very
often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking
about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had
but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past
Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain
but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg





Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9)
that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates.
The
fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in
MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for
sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety
design on the CM9.

All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't
appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They
may
only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for
all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside.



I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle
differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a
reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9.
It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant
version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version
of the PM9.

For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA.



And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to
what, 3,023?


Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many
guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when I
find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those are
pocket pistols, I don't know.

Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office
of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency.

Please note the sentence in the third paragraph:

"Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply
with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations".

That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved List"
by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also requires
the approval of the Attorney General's office and they disapprove
"Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria they feel like
applying. For example, you will note that there are many GLock models
on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try to buy a Glock here.
Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA compliant. Same with
all the Beretta models.

As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line.
You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded.

I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to
order on-line like just like in about every other state.

But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will
likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future.
Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare.

Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the
particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell:

http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf






I have no objection to the owners of firearms being "permitted," *and*
required to take a serious course on firearms.

We have a state approved firearms list here in Maryland. I've never
wanted or purchased a firearm that wasn't on the "approved"
list...shotguns, rifles, semi-auto pistols, revolvers...no problems
buying whatever I wanted.

I think I mentioned in another post that if I were going to carry again,
I'd want a Ruger LCR in .357 Mag:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3CrI9SEd7Y

I fired one last week at the range. Significant muzzle flip if shooting
one handed, easy to control and minimize shooting two handed.

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Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/14, 10:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:24:56 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:

H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:



Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one

out.



===



That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the

obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and

speculators will be out of the market and things will return to

normal.





I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22

rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500

rounds

for each gun.



I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for

another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very

often

so I suspect my stash will last a while.



What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier

this

week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking

about a

compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had

but

didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous

"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.



I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past

Monday. He

had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and

pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain

but

had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I

liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with

me. Looks identical to this:



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg











Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?

I don't see why not. They're made there.



Maybe it's the size??





I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm

(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.



I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The

fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in

MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for

sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety

design on the CM9.





The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.





Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier.





I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one.



You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you

could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well.





LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house

for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they

all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s).



Is that where you keep FlaJim when he visits?
In a respectable area you gotta keep up appearances with the neighbours, you know. ;-)

\

I would think FlaJim would be staying in the septic tank.

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If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Ammunition prices dropping?
 

On 6/14/2014 9:15 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:

Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out.

===

That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the
obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and
speculators will be out of the market and things will return to
normal.


I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22
rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds
for each gun.

I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for
another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often
so I suspect my stash will last a while.

What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier
this
week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a
compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but
didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous
"banned" list by the Attorney General's office.

I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He
had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and
pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but
had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I
liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with
me. Looks identical to this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg


Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA?
I don't see why not. They're made there.

Maybe it's the size??


I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm
(PM9) that *is* MA compliant.

I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates.
The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for
sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version
specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the
same unique safety design on the CM9.


The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference.

There is no technical difference between the PM9 and the CM9.



Here's what I found. Subtle, but they are "technical" differences:

PM9 = Polygonal rifling
CM9 = Conventional rifling

PM9 = Machined slide release
CM9 = Injection molded slide release

PM9 = Dovetail front sight
CM9 = Pinned front sight

PM9 = All black option
CM9 = No all black option (factory)

PM9 = Night sights option
CM9 = No night sights option (factory)