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Ammunition prices dropping?
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Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/8/14, 1:13 PM, Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ The Sellier & Bellot .357 Magnum FMJ target ammo I like is just under $2.00 a box of 50 cheaper than it was two months ago. I've seen CCI ..22LR soft lead ammo around on dealer shelves, but I don't buy uncoated or non FMJ ammo, for the most part. From what I have read, though, the ammo hoarders are still hoarding by buying everything they see on the shelves. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/8/2014 1:27 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/8/14, 1:13 PM, Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ The Sellier & Bellot .357 Magnum FMJ target ammo I like is just under $2.00 a box of 50 cheaper than it was two months ago. I've seen CCI .22LR soft lead ammo around on dealer shelves, but I don't buy uncoated or non FMJ ammo, for the most part. From what I have read, though, the ammo hoarders are still hoarding by buying everything they see on the shelves. Sounds like civilian stockpiles of ammo are going to reach all time highs. That must have been OhBumma's goal in the first place. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Tim wrote:
Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Monday, June 9, 2014 2:45:59 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... Back several years ago I bought ball .223 in a bulk load of 2500 for 12c. a shot. Still have most of it too. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt action .223. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/9/14, 5:29 PM, Earl wrote:
Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt action .223. There are two different systems. The M&P and original M16 gas tube system and then the newer more expensive Piston at the end of the forestock system. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/9/14, 2:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... i read where there is starting to be an oversupply of AR type weapons. Most have filled their fears in buying and the supply line is still cranked up. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:30:17 -0400, Earl wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:15:21 -0500, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? Commodity center fire ammo will flirt with 15-20 cents a round and I will jump back in. Until then I am OK. .308 is still more than .45! ..45's pretty cheap at WalMart, and they seem to have it most of the time. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Bill McKee wrote:
On 6/9/14, 5:29 PM, Earl wrote: Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt action .223. There are two different systems. The M&P and original M16 gas tube system and then the newer more expensive Piston at the end of the forestock system. My Colt AR15 is pre-ban. If the gas system if the same as the M&P there's something else that is off. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Bill McKee wrote:
On 6/9/14, 2:45 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... i read where there is starting to be an oversupply of AR type weapons. Most have filled their fears in buying and the supply line is still cranked up. That's very true. Look at the price of the Windham's now. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
BAR wrote:
In article , says... Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I don't like how the M&P shoots. The gas system doesn't seem as refined as my Colt or my friend's Rock River Arms. It feels more like my bolt action .223. Change the buffer spring or the buffer. Sure, but if the factory is content with their product and I can buy a better firearm off the shelf, why the need for modifications? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:30:17 -0400, Earl wrote: wrote: On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:15:21 -0500, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? Commodity center fire ammo will flirt with 15-20 cents a round and I will jump back in. Until then I am OK. .308 is still more than .45! .45's pretty cheap at WalMart, and they seem to have it most of the time. Finding .380 (I miss-typed) is the problem - at a decent price. 9MM is cheaper from the same manufacturers!? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
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Ammunition prices dropping?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote:
Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/11/14, 8:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Plenty of choices for that ammo he http://ammoseek.com/ammo/380-auto I kind of like the Ruger LCR in .357 MAG/.38 Special for concealed carry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTn-p0JSKUo -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg === I've seen 380 on the shelf at our local Walmart. It's not nearly as popular as 22lr. I think a lot of 22lr gets used in target practice and competition. When it was readily available I was going through 300 to 400 rounds a week. The rest of it is being hoarded or bought up by scalpers. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Earl wrote:
Bill McKee wrote: On 6/9/14, 2:45 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... i read where there is starting to be an oversupply of AR type weapons. Most have filled their fears in buying and the supply line is still cranked up. That's very true. Look at the price of the Windham's now. I was looking at the Wymdhams and the store in Livermore saint $950 plus tax. 250 les for the S&W. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/11/2014 9:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. Is that why you didn't consider the LCP? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 7:43 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/11/2014 9:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. Is that why you didn't consider the LCP? I considered it because I like Ruger firearms but the LCP is not MA compliant. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/12/2014 7:43 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. Is that why you didn't consider the LCP? I considered it because I like Ruger firearms but the LCP is not MA compliant. Not enough kick-backs to the various approving boards? Graft, greed, nannyisnm and corruption will always be a part of the liberal way of life |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Quite like my P938, which is the 9mm counterpart. https://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProd...8-equinox.aspx "With the introduction of the P938, SIG SAUER now offers the ballistic advantage of the 9mm cartridge in a platform similar in size to the best-selling P238 pistol." I like the way it shoots, and my wife loves the damn thing! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Our WalMart has had .380 quite often. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 8:12 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/12/2014 7:43 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. Is that why you didn't consider the LCP? I considered it because I like Ruger firearms but the LCP is not MA compliant. Not enough kick-backs to the various approving boards? According to what I've read the LCP was submitted for testing and certification but it flunked the "drop" test. In other words, it fired when dropped. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 8:27 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 8:12 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/12/2014 7:43 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:33 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 9:09 PM, wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I guess the law there makes internet sales illegal. Very few dealers will even consider shipping to a FFL in MA because of the confusion on what's banned and what's not. Shipping directly to the buyer is not permitted obviously. Heck, I can't even buy ammo on-line. MA doesn't allow that. Many of the manufacturers of popular handguns don't bother trying to get their models approved here either. Too much red tape and I think they have to provide a minimum of five of each model to be tested. They are destroyed in the process and there's no guarantee it will be approved. Some of the rules are just plain stupid. One popular model (I think it was a Ruger) was banned because the AG didn't like where the serial number was placed. I guess the AG's office wants Ruger to modify their production line just to meet their opinion of where it should be. Is that why you didn't consider the LCP? I considered it because I like Ruger firearms but the LCP is not MA compliant. Not enough kick-backs to the various approving boards? Graft, greed, nannyisnm and corruption will always be a part of the liberal way of life I don't think it is CA compliant either. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I would rather have the Colt Mustang .380. 380 ammo prices are coming down, just not as fast as the other types of ammo. I'd like one also but, like the Ruger LCP, the Colt Mustang is not MA compliant. I think the list of non-compliant handguns in MA is longer than the list of compliant models. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 8:28 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Quite like my P938, which is the 9mm counterpart. https://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProd...8-equinox.aspx "With the introduction of the P938, SIG SAUER now offers the ballistic advantage of the 9mm cartridge in a platform similar in size to the best-selling P238 pistol." I like the way it shoots, and my wife loves the damn thing! The dealer had a P938 also that I looked at. Nice gun. A little bigger than the P228 but not by much. I went for the P228 due to it's size (I wanted a pocket pistol) and since I also use .380 ammo for the Walther. I didn't feel like having to stock up on 9mm as well. I am not really interested in "stopping power" specs and discussions. I figure that in an emergency anything is better than nothing. It's more important to be able to shoot accurately. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/14, 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
The dealer had a P938 also that I looked at. Nice gun. A little bigger than the P228 but not by much. I went for the P228 due to it's size (I wanted a pocket pistol) and since I also use .380 ammo for the Walther. I didn't feel like having to stock up on 9mm as well. I am not really interested in "stopping power" specs and discussions. I figure that in an emergency anything is better than nothing. It's more important to be able to shoot accurately. I thought the Walther was your "carry" pistol. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 11:32 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/12/14, 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: The dealer had a P938 also that I looked at. Nice gun. A little bigger than the P228 but not by much. I went for the P228 due to it's size (I wanted a pocket pistol) and since I also use .380 ammo for the Walther. I didn't feel like having to stock up on 9mm as well. I am not really interested in "stopping power" specs and discussions. I figure that in an emergency anything is better than nothing. It's more important to be able to shoot accurately. I thought the Walther was your "carry" pistol. The Walther is really too big and heavy to be a comfortable carry pistol although some people do. I like it a lot ... it's my favorite gun to shoot at the range. Accurate and just "feels" right. I don't "carry" much anymore anyway. Really no reason to. I still wanted a small, pocket sized pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard that I had and didn't like at all. The Sigs have a very good reputation, the P228 is tried and true and is the size I was looking for. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:27:40 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/12/2014 8:28 AM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:34:55 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Quite like my P938, which is the 9mm counterpart. https://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProd...8-equinox.aspx "With the introduction of the P938, SIG SAUER now offers the ballistic advantage of the 9mm cartridge in a platform similar in size to the best-selling P238 pistol." I like the way it shoots, and my wife loves the damn thing! The dealer had a P938 also that I looked at. Nice gun. A little bigger than the P228 but not by much. I went for the P228 due to it's size (I wanted a pocket pistol) and since I also use .380 ammo for the Walther. I didn't feel like having to stock up on 9mm as well. I am not really interested in "stopping power" specs and discussions. I figure that in an emergency anything is better than nothing. It's more important to be able to shoot accurately. I was just at our WalMart. There's about 80 boxes of .380 FMJ on the shelf. Keep checking your local WalMart. BTW, here's a great instructional video on shooting the P228. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFN-CqLOkZs Well, the P938 is .4" longer, mostly in barrel length, but other than that the dimensions are about the same. But I do understand the desire to stick with only a few ammo calibers. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/14, 12:04 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/12/2014 11:32 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/12/14, 11:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: The dealer had a P938 also that I looked at. Nice gun. A little bigger than the P228 but not by much. I went for the P228 due to it's size (I wanted a pocket pistol) and since I also use .380 ammo for the Walther. I didn't feel like having to stock up on 9mm as well. I am not really interested in "stopping power" specs and discussions. I figure that in an emergency anything is better than nothing. It's more important to be able to shoot accurately. I thought the Walther was your "carry" pistol. The Walther is really too big and heavy to be a comfortable carry pistol although some people do. I like it a lot ... it's my favorite gun to shoot at the range. Accurate and just "feels" right. I don't "carry" much anymore anyway. Really no reason to. I still wanted a small, pocket sized pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard that I had and didn't like at all. The Sigs have a very good reputation, the P228 is tried and true and is the size I was looking for. SIG makes first-class weapons. I liked the X-5 I had. It was a work of art and it worked smoothly and reliably. It just wasn't as accurate as the CZ I got to replace it, and it didn't cycle as quickly, either. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 6:54 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/12/2014 8:03 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I would rather have the Colt Mustang .380. 380 ammo prices are coming down, just not as fast as the other types of ammo. I'd like one also but, like the Ruger LCP, the Colt Mustang is not MA compliant. I think the list of non-compliant handguns in MA is longer than the list of compliant models. I thought MA was a pro choice state? Oh, you thought that meant *you* had choice there? LOL... |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Califbill wrote:
Earl wrote: Bill McKee wrote: On 6/9/14, 2:45 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, June 8, 2014 1:15:21 PM UTC-7, Califbill wrote: Tim wrote: Here's a pretty good explanation of why.... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nition-prices/ Was in the gun store Friday looking at a new AR. $699 for M&P Sport. $399 for a 1000 rd case of ammo for it. Maybe should wait on the AR? I'd say that the M&P is just as good as an AR, And I doubt you'll find the AR's dropping in price that much. Might be wrong though... i read where there is starting to be an oversupply of AR type weapons. Most have filled their fears in buying and the supply line is still cranked up. That's very true. Look at the price of the Windham's now. I was looking at the Wymdhams and the store in Livermore saint $950 plus tax. 250 les for the S&W. $750 here. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 6:54 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/12/2014 8:03 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I would rather have the Colt Mustang .380. 380 ammo prices are coming down, just not as fast as the other types of ammo. I'd like one also but, like the Ruger LCP, the Colt Mustang is not MA compliant. I think the list of non-compliant handguns in MA is longer than the list of compliant models. I thought MA was a pro choice state? It is. It's up to the choice of the Attorney General. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? No. However, there is a MA compliant version of the PM9. Don't know what the difference is from those sold elsewhere. |
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