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Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 20:21:49 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/12/2014 6:54 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/12/2014 8:03 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg I would rather have the Colt Mustang .380. 380 ammo prices are coming down, just not as fast as the other types of ammo. I'd like one also but, like the Ruger LCP, the Colt Mustang is not MA compliant. I think the list of non-compliant handguns in MA is longer than the list of compliant models. I thought MA was a pro choice state? It is. It's up to the choice of the Attorney General. Let me know next time you're coming through the DC area, and I'll be glad to pick up some .380 for you. I understand shipping it is a pain in the ass. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
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Ammunition prices dropping?
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote:
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to what, 3,023? -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to what, 3,023? You think the Commonwealth of Massachusetts has certified as safe 3,023 concealable handguns? Name them for us, please. WAFA |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to what, 3,023? Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when I find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those are pocket pistols, I don't know. Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency. Please note the sentence in the third paragraph: "Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations". That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved List" by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also requires the approval of the Attorney General's office and they disapprove "Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria they feel like applying. For example, you will note that there are many GLock models on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try to buy a Glock here. Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA compliant. Same with all the Beretta models. As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line. You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded. I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to order on-line like just like in about every other state. But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future. Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare. Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well. LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s). |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:24:56 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well. LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s). Is that where you keep FlaJim when he visits? In a respectable area you gotta keep up appearances with the neighbours, you know. ;-) |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 9:02 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. How did Glock's get on the MA compliant list? Glock's have no external safety. To the best of my knowledge there "may" be one Glock model that is MA compliant and legal to sell to civilians. You may be thinking of the Law Enforcement Only Glocks. They are on the Approved List but cannot be sold to civilians. Back in 2004 Glock shipped a bunch of handguns to MA dealers, many of which were sold. They had to buy them all back because they weren't MA compliant. The only Glocks you can buy legally have to been made prior to 1998 and has always been kept within MA. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/14, 10:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to what, 3,023? Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when I find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those are pocket pistols, I don't know. Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency. Please note the sentence in the third paragraph: "Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations". That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved List" by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also requires the approval of the Attorney General's office and they disapprove "Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria they feel like applying. For example, you will note that there are many GLock models on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try to buy a Glock here. Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA compliant. Same with all the Beretta models. As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line. You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded. I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to order on-line like just like in about every other state. But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future. Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare. Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf I have no objection to the owners of firearms being "permitted," *and* required to take a serious course on firearms. We have a state approved firearms list here in Maryland. I've never wanted or purchased a firearm that wasn't on the "approved" list...shotguns, rifles, semi-auto pistols, revolvers...no problems buying whatever I wanted. I think I mentioned in another post that if I were going to carry again, I'd want a Ruger LCR in .357 Mag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3CrI9SEd7Y I fired one last week at the range. Significant muzzle flip if shooting one handed, easy to control and minimize shooting two handed. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/14, 10:29 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 14 June 2014 11:24:56 UTC-3, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/14/2014 7:19 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well. LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s). Is that where you keep FlaJim when he visits? In a respectable area you gotta keep up appearances with the neighbours, you know. ;-) \ I would think FlaJim would be staying in the septic tank. -- If right-wing assholes could fly, rec.boats would be an airport! |
Ammunition prices dropping?
On 6/14/2014 9:15 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. There is no technical difference between the PM9 and the CM9. Here's what I found. Subtle, but they are "technical" differences: PM9 = Polygonal rifling CM9 = Conventional rifling PM9 = Machined slide release CM9 = Injection molded slide release PM9 = Dovetail front sight CM9 = Pinned front sight PM9 = All black option CM9 = No all black option (factory) PM9 = Night sights option CM9 = No night sights option (factory) |
Ammunition prices dropping?
BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/14/2014 9:15 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. There is no technical difference between the PM9 and the CM9. Here's what I found. Subtle, but they are "technical" differences: PM9 = Polygonal rifling CM9 = Conventional rifling Not significant enough to the operation of the firearm to worry about. It is a 3 inch barrel firing a 9x19 projectile. PM9 = Machined slide release CM9 = Injection molded slide release Metal vs. Plastic, not really a technical difference when they are built to the same physical dimensions. PM9 = Dovetail front sight CM9 = Pinned front sight Insignificant. PM9 = All black option CM9 = No all black option (factory) You can get the firearm's color changed once you buy it. PM9 = Night sights option CM9 = No night sights option (factory) After market parts and accessories can make this moot. California, I think it is the 626 that they changed the finish. Not approved. The stainless is approved, the grey finish is not approved. Has not been drop tested. No mechanical change, just a color change. Free country? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:05 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:28 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 10:03 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. Bingo. MA is big on safeties. The more the merrier. I wouldn't buy a semi-auto pistol without one. You should move to MA. Buy Luddites house. He has a secret room you could hide in. But then there's the affordability issue. Oh well. And those damn taxes he avoided. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. How did Glock's get on the MA compliant list? Glock's have no external safety. Sure they do. My 23 has a trigger safety and two internal safeties. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 7:04 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 6/14/14, 2:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. And that means that your choice of "certified" pocket rockets is down to what, 3,023? Hardly. I don't know what the exact number is but I've looked at many guns on the various manufacturer's websites. More often than not when I find a gun of interest, it is banned in MA. What number of those are pocket pistols, I don't know. Below is a link to the current "Approved List" by the Executive Office of Public Safety and Security which is the MA safety testing agency. Please note the sentence in the third paragraph: "Firearms on this Approved Firearms Roster do not necessarily comply with the requirements of the Attorney General’s Handgun Sales Regulations". That sentence is the rub. Just because a gun is on the "Approved List" by the testing agency doesn't mean it's MA compliant. It also requires the approval of the Attorney General's office and they disapprove "Approved" models based on whatever subjective criteria they feel like applying. For example, you will note that there are many GLock models on the "Approved List" by the testing agency. Try to buy a Glock here. Last I knew there was *one* model that was MA compliant. Same with all the Beretta models. As previously mentioned, MA residents can't even order ammo on-line. You have to buy it in person, show your permit and the sale is recorded. I don't care about the recording part. I'd just like to be able to order on-line like just like in about every other state. But fear not. The rules and procedures for gun ownership in MA will likely be coming to a state and town like yours in the future. Just think. Romneycare was the example adopted for Omamacare. Here's that "Approved List" link that doesn't mean any of the particular models is MA compliant or legal to sell: http://www.mass.gov/eopss/docs/chsb/firearms/approvedfirearmsroster02-2014.pdf There aren't 3000 on the entire list - OK, I didn't count them all. There certainly aren't even 100 pocket pistols. Where does Harry come up with this bull****? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
True North wrote:
LOL. The "secret room" is probably going to end up selling the house for us. Our broker hosted a broker's open house here last week and they all got a big kick out of the sliding bookcase and hidden room(s). Is that where you keep FlaJim when he visits? In a respectable area you gotta keep up appearances with the neighbours, you know. ;-) That's antagonistic and dumb. Aren't you better than that? |
Ammunition prices dropping?
BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 6/14/2014 9:15 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. The CM9 doesn't have a manual safety. That must be the difference. There is no technical difference between the PM9 and the CM9. Here's what I found. Subtle, but they are "technical" differences: PM9 = Polygonal rifling CM9 = Conventional rifling Not significant enough to the operation of the firearm to worry about. It is a 3 inch barrel firing a 9x19 projectile. PM9 = Machined slide release CM9 = Injection molded slide release Metal vs. Plastic, not really a technical difference when they are built to the same physical dimensions. PM9 = Dovetail front sight CM9 = Pinned front sight Insignificant. PM9 = All black option CM9 = No all black option (factory) You can get the firearm's color changed once you buy it. PM9 = Night sights option CM9 = No night sights option (factory) After market parts and accessories can make this moot. You must own a CM9. No need to defend it. It's a very good pocket gun. |
Ammunition prices dropping?
BAR wrote:
In article , says... BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 9:33 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 6/13/2014 8:36 PM, Earl wrote: H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote: On 6/12/2014 7:37 PM, Earl wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 6/11/2014 7:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:45:21 -0400, Earl wrote: Your theory is solid except for .22LR. I can't figure that one out. === That will ease up also after everyone has stocked up with the obligatory lifetime supply. At that point the hoarders and speculators will be out of the market and things will return to normal. I have two .22 cal guns .. a Ruger SR22 pistol and a Ruger 10/22 rifle. When I purchased them the dealer threw in a box of 500 rounds for each gun. I also have a couple of boxes that I had purchased previously for another .22 cal revolver I had. I don't shoot the .22's very often so I suspect my stash will last a while. What I need is .380 ammo. I just bought another handgun earlier this week for the first time in a long time. I've been thinking about a compact pocket pistol to replace the S&W Bodyguard 380 that I had but didn't like. Choices are limited here in MA because of the famous "banned" list by the Attorney General's office. I happened to visit the local gun shop I go to this past Monday. He had two Sig Sauer P228s in the case. One had fancy engraving and pearl grips. Too over the top for me. The other was more plain but had nice looking rosewood grips instead of the baseline black. I liked that one and temptation overcame logic and it went home with me. Looks identical to this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...sauer-P238.jpg Can you get the Kahr CM9 in MA? I don't see why not. They're made there. Maybe it's the size?? I don't think so. There's a version of the very similar Kahr 9mm (PM9) that *is* MA compliant. I think it has something to do with the safety or how it operates. The fact that there is a "version" of the PM9 that is approved for sale in MA makes me think that Kahr designed a unique version specifically for sale in MA. It may be that they have not made the same unique safety design on the CM9. All of those Kahr's in 9MM look the same on the inside. There doesn't appear to be any difference in the inner workings or the parts. They may only have one frame assembly drawing on their website that they use for all of their pistols or they are all the same on the inside. I did a little reading on the CM9 and the PM9. There are a few subtle differences. One is the rifling in the barrel. I also found a reference to the external safety on the MA compliant version of the PM9. It's possible that the CM9 does not have whatever the MA compliant version of the PM9 has. The CM9 is basically a less expensive version of the PM9. For whatever reason, the CM9 is not certified for sale in MA. How did Glock's get on the MA compliant list? Glock's have no external safety. Sure they do. My 23 has a trigger safety and two internal safeties. Several of my plastic guns have "trigger" safety's. My favorite metal gun has a real safety. Mine, too. A S&W 5906 and my Beretta 92FS Inox. The decockers are nice as well. |
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