On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

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Back in the 50's the city traffic cops in Syracuse, NY were riding
them.

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:10:24 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:21:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

It was pretty but more of a show bike than a riding bike. My buddy
bought it simply because he thought it looked good and we got a
helluva deal on it. A quick trip around the block showed us why.
I rode it a couple of times to show it but, as soon as the buyer tried
it, the deal was off. We were afraid it would get wrecked before we
could sell it.
By parting it out, we actually made more than we hoped to make by
flipping it.

The basic bike itself was a WWII vintage dispatch bike with what
turned out to be $1500 worth of custom parts on it. (what we paid for
the whole thing)
The guy who bought the engine/tranny was restoring one. That engine
had been completely rebuilt with a bunch of the parts chromed or
polished. It was actually a pretty fast 45.

This is what the commercial version would look like if it was
restored.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Harley%2045.jpg

This is one we saw in Sturgis

I once bought three Moto Guzzi's, one with a sidecar. Sold the sidecar rig for what I paid for all
three bikes, then parted out the other two - keeping a few parts for my bike. Made out like a fat
rat, much more than doubling my money. Of course, I had free advertising in the Moto Guzzi club
newsletter, so that helped.

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.
(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).

We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the
road!

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:47:38 -0400, Poquito Loco

wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:



In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere



every weekend.



Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...



http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg



We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)



Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the

road!



Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand

clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot

clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\



I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide

may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have

"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped

with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:02:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:

Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand
clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot
clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\
I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide
may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have
"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped
with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

It was a real fad in the late 60s and early 70s. The ones I never
understood were the Triumph choppers. They would take a 650 Bonneville
and try to make it look like a Harley.
One casualty was usually the battery because that was the easy way to
get the seat lower. There was a trick where you hid a couple thousand
MFD capacitor somewhere and that was enough to excite the alternator
to get things going. If it wasn't running perfectly tho, you had a
bike that was harder to start than a 69 "mag" Sportster.
In the end, you still had a Triumph that was just hard to ride.

We made lots of money taking "customized" Harleys back to stock. There
was a guy in Hillcrest Heights named Andrew Jackson who dealt Harley
parts for a living. We would swap him custom parts for stock parts one
for one and he would make lots of money swapping them back the other
way, giving a pittance for the trade in to guys who wanted to
customize.

I found this picture of my old 72 Super Glide.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg

Cool. That picture's been around a while. I suppose I'll die without ever owning a Harley, unless
Eisboch decides to give me a *super* deal on his.

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:02:20 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:



Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand

clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot

clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\

I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide

may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have

"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped

with.



I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.



It was a real fad in the late 60s and early 70s. The ones I never

understood were the Triumph choppers. They would take a 650 Bonneville

and try to make it look like a Harley.

One casualty was usually the battery because that was the easy way to

get the seat lower. There was a trick where you hid a couple thousand

MFD capacitor somewhere and that was enough to excite the alternator

to get things going. If it wasn't running perfectly tho, you had a

bike that was harder to start than a 69 "mag" Sportster.

In the end, you still had a Triumph that was just hard to ride.

Ah yes, ye olde "battery Eliminator". When I got my 500 Triumph Daytona, somebody had put on in it. What a crock. Some one had installed one, and it was exactly like you said. really hard to start. if you took off at low speeds the alternator would stall out and it would die. You couldn't start it with the headlight on, and when you got to a bit of a speed you could turn on the light and it would momentarily die, then in a second or so, the engine would revive. Not a good thing in any kind of traffic.

We made lots of money taking "customized" Harleys back to stock. There

was a guy in Hillcrest Heights named Andrew Jackson who dealt Harley

parts for a living. We would swap him custom parts for stock parts one

for one and he would make lots of money swapping them back the other

way, giving a pittance for the trade in to guys who wanted to

customize.

Taht's cool. Get 'em comin' and goin'

I found this picture of my old 72 Super Glide.



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg
Very nice.

When in high school, I always lusted after an FX "Superglide" (Captin America)

http://img.eatsleepride.com/content/list/8752.jpg

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:32:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:47:38 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.
(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).

We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the
road!

Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand
clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot
clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\

I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide
may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have
"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped
with.

Two things I can't understand - choppers and monkey bars. It would seem both would be detrimental to
the handling of the bike. Never tried them though. I'm thinking they're more for attention getting
than anything else. Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:16 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

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Yah but think of the increased ventilation in hot weather and improved
gripping area for your biker babe. :-)