On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:53:23 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:





If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.







http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg





Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it.. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.



Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.



http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG



Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.

http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, John H wrote:

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.



http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

I scanned around and looked at a lot of the Morgan cycle-cars, and it seems the goose is the power plant of choice.

I'd be nice to have one with the original JAP engine, but they've been out of business probably before I was alive.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, John H wrote:

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.



http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

I scanned around and looked at a lot of the Morgan cycle-cars, and it seems the goose is the power plant of choice.

I'd be nice to have one with the original JAP engine, but they've been out of business probably before I was alive.

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere
every weekend.

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

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Back in the 50's the city traffic cops in Syracuse, NY were riding
them.

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:10:24 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:21:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

It was pretty but more of a show bike than a riding bike. My buddy
bought it simply because he thought it looked good and we got a
helluva deal on it. A quick trip around the block showed us why.
I rode it a couple of times to show it but, as soon as the buyer tried
it, the deal was off. We were afraid it would get wrecked before we
could sell it.
By parting it out, we actually made more than we hoped to make by
flipping it.

The basic bike itself was a WWII vintage dispatch bike with what
turned out to be $1500 worth of custom parts on it. (what we paid for
the whole thing)
The guy who bought the engine/tranny was restoring one. That engine
had been completely rebuilt with a bunch of the parts chromed or
polished. It was actually a pretty fast 45.

This is what the commercial version would look like if it was
restored.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Harley%2045.jpg

This is one we saw in Sturgis

I once bought three Moto Guzzi's, one with a sidecar. Sold the sidecar rig for what I paid for all
three bikes, then parted out the other two - keeping a few parts for my bike. Made out like a fat
rat, much more than doubling my money. Of course, I had free advertising in the Moto Guzzi club
newsletter, so that helped.

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.
(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).

We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the
road!

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:47:38 -0400, Poquito Loco

wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:



In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere



every weekend.



Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...



http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg



We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)



Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the

road!



Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand

clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot

clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\



I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide

may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have

"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped

with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:02:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:

Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand
clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot
clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\
I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide
may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have
"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped
with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

It was a real fad in the late 60s and early 70s. The ones I never
understood were the Triumph choppers. They would take a 650 Bonneville
and try to make it look like a Harley.
One casualty was usually the battery because that was the easy way to
get the seat lower. There was a trick where you hid a couple thousand
MFD capacitor somewhere and that was enough to excite the alternator
to get things going. If it wasn't running perfectly tho, you had a
bike that was harder to start than a 69 "mag" Sportster.
In the end, you still had a Triumph that was just hard to ride.

We made lots of money taking "customized" Harleys back to stock. There
was a guy in Hillcrest Heights named Andrew Jackson who dealt Harley
parts for a living. We would swap him custom parts for stock parts one
for one and he would make lots of money swapping them back the other
way, giving a pittance for the trade in to guys who wanted to
customize.

I found this picture of my old 72 Super Glide.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg

Cool. That picture's been around a while. I suppose I'll die without ever owning a Harley, unless
Eisboch decides to give me a *super* deal on his.