In article ,
says...


This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

Jets are inefficient anyway.
Surprised you haven't gone solar with a pontoon.
Your location and boating style are made for it.
Keep a lightweight gas kicker.
You done any numbers lately?

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg


Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.

Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.

http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG

Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

That would be a good project! I sold an 850T engine a few years back for $500 in pretty decent
condition. Check the MGNOC adds for 'parting out' and see what you can find.

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:53:23 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:





If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.







http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg





Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it.. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.



Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.



http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG



Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.

http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:41:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:29:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are
close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to
being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

===

Can you buy one like that or is it purely custom?

That Spyder is a regular production trike

You can get one on Colonial, just east of metro.

This is pretty close to the top of the line (30k)
http://www.sunsportscycle.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=06550867X3K27K2014J2I03 I11JAMQ980R0&veh=379393&CatDesc=&ModelYear=2014

http://tinyurl.com/klvomsa

They also have one for about half that ($15k)

Amazing that it is only $15k. Friends wife bought an Organic Transit
electric bike. $8k.

wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:20:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

Jets are inefficient anyway.
Surprised you haven't gone solar with a pontoon.
Your location and boating style are made for it.
Keep a lightweight gas kicker.
You done any numbers lately?

I am averaging around 1.2-1.3 gallons an hour overall for close to 500
hours. It would take me a long time to recover the cost of a change.
I also like the capability of being able to get up and go when the
weather kicks up so that would require some pretty big electric
motors.

I also keep my boat in a covered slip so the solar collectors would
need to be shore side requiring a bunch of batteries.

I did look into it and the best setup I saw would be a couple of motor
skids with golf cart motors and 12 batteries. The batteries alone will
add ~600 pounds to the boat. It might be a great solution for someone
on a "no gas" lake tho. Even then, the last 2 outboards I have had
were California 3 star rated so it would work on all but the most
restricted lakes.

The newer jets are a lot more efficient. The newest Hamilton's are about
95% the efficiency of props. Mine is an older model and is probably
80-85%.

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg


Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in
it. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug
alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli
generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.

Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a
steering stick and have at it.

http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG

Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

I thought about just using the whole PWC power plant and pump.

The problem is weight so you would almost need a custom built jon
boat.
OTOH they do make a jet ski based RIBs that get you top a similar idea
off the rack.

This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qURP7QG08fQ
Friend of mine Odwil has build a couple of jet ski powered jetboats. Runs
really shallow water. Problem with jets is grass more than mud. They make
a stomp grate for a lot of jets. Basically let's the grate bars move as
two sets and you can press down the lever and every other bar separates.

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:



Poquito Loco wrote:

....then this site would be very appropriate for information:



http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html



Greg has put together a lot of information.



If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg



* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler weÂ’ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the

Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly
add tracks to the rear wheels

for difficult terrain.







Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front

wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel

drive.



I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels
on the rear instead of the

tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

I'm sure it was an option, but there was an enclosed cab model too!

http://www.bellinaclassicmotors.com/...ole-500cc.html

You see lots and lots of those in rural, areas of Italy. Their delivery
van.

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:39:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:31:09 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler weÂ’ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to
quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.

I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had
wheels on the rear instead of the
tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

Trikes are really pretty popular these days. I guess they were on the
leading edge back then.

The VM conversion was all the rage in the 60s and 70s. I have seen
totally custom trikes with V-8s. That is scary

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are close
enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to
being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

Those amaze me. Have a friend with one. Very stable. I remember the old
3 wheeler police bikes,and meter maids. Those trikes would flop over if you
looked hard at them.

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:50:28 -0500, Califbill wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:



Poquito Loco wrote:

....then this site would be very appropriate for information:



http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html



Greg has put together a lot of information.



If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg



* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we?ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the

Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly
add tracks to the rear wheels

for difficult terrain.







Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front

wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel

drive.



I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels
on the rear instead of the

tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

I'm sure it was an option, but there was an enclosed cab model too!

http://www.bellinaclassicmotors.com/...ole-500cc.html

You see lots and lots of those in rural, areas of Italy. Their delivery
van.

When I visited the Guzzi factory in Mandello there was one being used to ferry parts around to the
different factory buildings. Older'n hell, but it still ran well.

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:10:36 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


When I visited the Guzzi factory in Mandello there was one being used to ferry parts around to the

different factory buildings. Older'n hell, but it still ran well.

it should run well. they'd catch grief if (1)it broke and (2) they couldn't fix it.