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says...


Those are big, smoked glass windows that are in the master stateroom.
Here's another video where the guy is showing the boat internal areas.
(It starts out looking like the other video, but is different). He gets
to the main stateroom about 2/3rds of the way through the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3LYpdEkAQ

I personally just don't "get" having a boat like that.
You give up a lot of seaworthiness, ease of maintenance, fuel
consumption and reliability for totally unnecessary "creature comforts."
Fuel consumption is a product of hull design and weight.
But different strokes.
If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg. Maybe 6 knots cruising speed. Or a cat.
It can be done. Wouldn't be a nice ride in heavy seas.
So stay away from them.
But "the need for speed" is great among us.

On 3/17/2014 6:21 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Those are big, smoked glass windows that are in the master stateroom.
Here's another video where the guy is showing the boat internal areas.
(It starts out looking like the other video, but is different). He gets
to the main stateroom about 2/3rds of the way through the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3LYpdEkAQ

I personally just don't "get" having a boat like that.
You give up a lot of seaworthiness, ease of maintenance, fuel
consumption and reliability for totally unnecessary "creature comforts."
Fuel consumption is a product of hull design and weight.
But different strokes.
If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg. Maybe 6 knots cruising speed. Or a cat.
It can be done. Wouldn't be a nice ride in heavy seas.
So stay away from them.
But "the need for speed" is great among us.





It all depends on what you use your boat for obviously. In the bigger
boats, I like comfort mainly because I like to spend a lot of time on
them, not necessarily always underway.

The 36' Grand Banks we had was a 6-7 knot cruise boat that would go from
MA to Florida on a tank of fuel. For what it's designed for, it was a
great boat and I enjoyed what it had to offer.

The 37' Egg Harbor was designed for getting out to a fishing spot in a
hurry. It was fast, burned a lot of fuel but I found that most of the
time I had to slow down due to sea conditions, otherwise it would almost
go airborne. It was a nice boat but I sold it after only two years.

The Navigator was a nice compromise. Decent fuel economy, 17-19 knot
cruise if you wanted to get somewhere in a reasonable period of time,
soft ride in rough water and enough creature comforts to live on for
weeks at a time.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.



7 knots is the typical cruising speed of a 36' Grand Banks trawler with
the single screw, 120 hp Ford Lehman diesel. 7 knots is 8 mph. At that
speed the engine is burning just about 1.5 gallons per hour, so it's
getting just about 5.3 mpg. Granted, that engine is of an old and
antiquated design, but almost tripling that mpg seems a bit ambitious.
Are you going to build the hull and superstructure of the "light"
trawler out of Styrofoam?

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?

On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About
settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's
$28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing.

On 3/18/2014 3:25 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:18:37 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

I'm going to have to bite the bullet and spend the bucks for some tires for the Silverado. About
settled on Michelin LTX MS/2. WalMart's got 'em for $216, plus $12 mounting/balancing/etc. That's
$28/tire less than Costco - which also charges $15/tire for mounting/balancing.


You need tires already? How many miles do you have on that beast?
My truck just turned 22,000 miles. Had it since 2008. Tires are still
like new, pretty much. I think they'll rot before they wear.

On 3/18/2014 3:18 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/18/2014 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 13:15:14 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 3/18/2014 12:55 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:49:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:20 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg.

===

There's no such animal. Even small sailboats do not get that kind of
fuel economy under most conditions.

I get around 8-9 MPG at hull speed in my boat.

I get around 8 or 9 mpg in my yacht.

===

How long do your tires last?


Don't know. They look new.

That's because you have so many of them.