JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

Michael Dunn said he tried to calm down the confrontation with three
teens in a neighboring SUV outside a Jacksonville convenience store in
November 2012.

“I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and hearing,” the 47-year-old said.

Dunn is charged with first-degree murder. He has pleaded not guilty and
says he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot 17-year-old Jordan
Davis of Marietta, Ga., outside a Jacksonville convenience store in 2012.

The defense rested its case Tuesday, and then prosecutors called Dunn’s
fiancee back to the witness stand. Rhonda Rouer contradicted Dunn’s
assertion that he had told her he had seen a gun in the teens’ SUV.
Closing arguments were expected Wednesday.

Prosecutors also played a video of Dunn’s jailhouse interview in which
he couldn’t explain why he didn’t call police after the shooting. Also
in it, detectives picked apart Dunn’s story that he was threatened with
a gun, saying no weapon was found on the teen and witnesses never
described Davis making threats.



Imagine what might have happened if the murdered kid had been armed with
a soft drink and a bag of candy!
http://tinyurl.com/lkh99vy

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Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

absolutely nothing about the ex-New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin, being
found guilty of corruption.

Wonder why??

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?


--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 09:16:28 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

No, it won't be OK. Stupid ****ing comment, but I would expect no better.

===

John, you already took the bait and the hook is well set. Now stop
flopping around and splashing water all over the place. I think a
simple "not worthy of comment" might have sufficed.

On 2/13/2014 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:54:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:31:00 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:29:41 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/13/14, 12:19 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:48:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Florida man charged with fatally shooting a
17-year-old boy after an argument over loud music testified Tuesday that
he thought he saw the barrel of a gun from a neighboring vehicle pointed
at him and that he feared for his life before firing his weapon.

They have been covering this wall to wall on CNN for a couple days but
I didn't watch much TV today.

I think Corey has reached too far again. This is probably a decent 2d
degree case but I don't think they have proved premeditation.

If his lawyer got any traction with his story that they pointed a
tripod out the window pretending that it was a shotgun and saying they
were going to kill Dunn, he might walk

A lot was made about the number of shots he fired but O'mara made an
interesting point commenting on CNN. When cops shoot, they usually
empty their gun and they are supposed to be trained professionals.


Hey, it's stand your ground Florida. Everyone knows it's OK for white
racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?

No, and most folks have more ****ing sense than to make such comments.

But that's just 'most', eh?



Yeah, because the shooter waited a couple of days to report his
involvement, and at his trial whined that the police didn't find the
kid's shotgun which, of course, they had no idea the kids had. The
shooter was "standing his ground."

Florida's stand your ground law seems little more than a payoff to the
gun lobby to provide a reason for hotheads to walk around armed in the
hope they'll be able to shoot someone and get away with it. The law
sells more guns.

Are you and your wife going to be packing when you walk your dog in the
neighborhood?

My comment had nothing to do with the shooter, it had to do with the senseless comment you made, to
wit: "Everyone knows it's OK for white racists to shoot and kill black teenagers there, right?"

Stupid ****ing comment.

We both pack a couple poop bags, just in case something like your comment gets dumped.


We'll see what happens with this trial. If Dunn walks, then it is ok for
white racists in Florida to kill black teenagers for whatever reason
they want, even if the music is too loud.

My bet is he is acquitted of the murder one beef and gets convicted on
one of the other lesser charges but it is really meaningless since the
sentence for any of them, even the aggravated assault, will be "20 to
life". (the OTHER controversial Florida gun law that blunts stand your
ground)


From what I can see so far, the guy is guilty of at least second degree
murder... maybe even first. I think the last three shots into the back
of the car seal that deal.