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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. |
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#2
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. OK, I get it but still... You don't counter steer your bike through a corner... You may bump the opposite side to get that little sway street bikes like... But like us, you could simply start to lean to the turn and the front end would follow. I am the one who has crossed over here and "learned" by reading.. I see why you do it, I "feel" the motion cause I have been there before, but still.. You on your street bike, and me on my MX bike, can make a left turn without ever "pushing" the left bar forward of the right bar.... |
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#3
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have.....  Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike are similar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... |
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#4
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/14, 11:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Which of those many hopped up dirt bikes you have do you ride on the streets? -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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#5
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 11:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Good frekin' grief Scott. Nobody ever said you can't turn without consciously counter steering. Taking a corner is a pretty natural thing to do. The original comment I made was riding a bike *straight* and pushing on the left or right handlebar to demonstrate what counter steering was about. Since then all you have yakked about is all the racing techniques, steering with the back tire, keeping the back tire's thrust in line, and shaving a tenth of a second off a corner. All, as if they anything to do with the original comment. |
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#6
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/14, 11:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 11:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Good frekin' grief Scott. Nobody ever said you can't turn without consciously counter steering. Taking a corner is a pretty natural thing to do. The original comment I made was riding a bike *straight* and pushing on the left or right handlebar to demonstrate what counter steering was about. Since then all you have yakked about is all the racing techniques, steering with the back tire, keeping the back tire's thrust in line, and shaving a tenth of a second off a corner. All, as if they anything to do with the original comment. I spend a lot of time when motorcycling making sure I am watching out for cars, crap in the road, and deer crossing. I don't think there is enough time left to practice what Scotty claims works on dirt bikes running at low speeds on mounds of dirt. I don't ride on mounds of dirt. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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#7
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 11:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 11:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Good frekin' grief Scott. Nobody ever said you can't turn without consciously counter steering. Taking a corner is a pretty natural thing to do. The original comment I made was riding a bike *straight* and pushing on the left or right handlebar to demonstrate what counter steering was about. Since then all you have yakked about is all the racing techniques, steering with the back tire, keeping the back tire's thrust in line, and shaving a tenth of a second off a corner. All, as if they anything to do with the original comment. If that's all you heard, you were reading with your heart and not your brain.. sorry... |
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#9
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 6:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/13/2014 12:12 PM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Good frekin' grief Scott. Nobody ever said you can't turn without consciously counter steering. Taking a corner is a pretty natural thing to do. The original comment I made was riding a bike *straight* and pushing on the left or right handlebar to demonstrate what counter steering was about. Since then all you have yakked about is all the racing techniques, steering with the back tire, keeping the back tire's thrust in line, and shaving a tenth of a second off a corner. All, as if they anything to do with the original comment. If that's all you heard, you were reading with your heart and not your brain.. sorry... Don't think so. I understand how gyros work. You don't. Right.... you are totally superior. Glad I was never one of your teachers.... you don't listen well... I accepted the gyro theory yesterday, understood it well.. John said "through" a corner that was the debate, you are just spewing and listening to yourself.... |
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#10
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/13/2014 7:11 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/13/2014 6:24 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:12 PM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 11:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 10:06 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:50 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/13/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/13/14, 6:13 AM, KC wrote: On 2/13/2014 12:00 AM, wrote: On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:31:12 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote: Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. Lying again....... No, he might have gone to a conference.... like everyone else but I doubt it cause he lied that time about getting the upgrade three weeks before the real release... It isn't surprising that you apparently think the only way to become a Microsoft beta tester was to attend a conference. There were and I presume still are many ways and within beta testing, there were groups testing different aspects of distros and sometimes at difference times. The "real release." What a laugh that is. I think Scott sometimes has difficulty accepting anything that is outside of his personal sphere of knowledge or experience. He seems to think that riding a 850+ lb Harley UltraClassic or Honda Goldwing is the same as riding a modern cafe' racer or dirt bike. We slow down to take sharp turns and corners. :-) And you seeem to read things the way you want to see to it you have an arguement... If you read my posts, I acutally posted last night after some research that you guys are probably right... But of course if you acknowledge that post, you can't troll and feel all superior.. No offense Scott but I stopped thoroughly reading your posts on this subject after about the 5th or 6th one that just kept repeating the same thing. Your riding and styles don't apply to everyone. I don't steer a bike with the back tire, nor do I go airborne, pull wheelies or am focused on saving a tenth of a second through a turn. The discussion basically started with a comment about counter-steering in very general terms. You guys are like my buddy.. If he has done something, he can't be wrong.. if he has never done it, I can't be right.. even if I have..... Either way. making a turn on a dirtbike and a GPX bike aresimilar enough... leave out the wheelies and jumps... All I am saying is, of the three of us, I am the only one who has substantial hours on both street and dirt bikes... maybe you give a "bit" of deference to that remembering that (and you have to stipulate to this) that I have trained one of the most technically accurate riders in the NE... And Jess and I card is quickly being filled for training young riders this summer based on what folks see my rider do.... Again, I will stipulate that you can indeed start a turn with a countersteer but you don't have to. But still, once you are in the corner both street and mx, you are not countersteering... Good frekin' grief Scott. Nobody ever said you can't turn without consciously counter steering. Taking a corner is a pretty natural thing to do. The original comment I made was riding a bike *straight* and pushing on the left or right handlebar to demonstrate what counter steering was about. Since then all you have yakked about is all the racing techniques, steering with the back tire, keeping the back tire's thrust in line, and shaving a tenth of a second off a corner. All, as if they anything to do with the original comment. If that's all you heard, you were reading with your heart and not your brain.. sorry... Don't think so. I understand how gyros work. You don't. Right.... you are totally superior. Glad I was never one of your teachers.... you don't listen well... I accepted the gyro theory yesterday, understood it well.. John said "through" a corner that was the debate, you are just spewing and listening to yourself.... LOL. Go ahead Scott. Make a fool out of yourself. I give up trying to provide any helpful information. |
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