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On 2/11/14, 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

Telling a lie over and over does not make it true.


Can't answer the question, eh?

--
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her house.

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/2014 1:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.


My friends and I, as you put it, did not associate serving this country
with going to Vietnam and killing Southeast Asians.

Since you mentioned it. What did you do to serve your country?

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:10:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

Telling a lie over and over does not make it true.


Can't answer the question, eh?

'Twas answered.

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/14, 5:43 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally
trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to
make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide
kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child
psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You
drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that
you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food,
clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up
the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident
almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.



you are incapable of designing and running a study. You do not have
the3 correct degree.

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/14, 9:08 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/11/2014 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.

Harry never liked JFK.
He would not share?

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On 2/10/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.



We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


I used to watch a lot of programming on "The Health Channel". That didn't qualify me to be a physician. Or did it?

Only if youy stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. My mom was an RN. Did
that qualify me to be a nurse? I designed medical equipment. Did that
qualify me to be a doctor?

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/14, 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.


My friends and I, as you put it, did not associate serving this country
with going to Vietnam and killing Southeast Asians.

Neither did I. When I joined we had just elected LBJ and he was going
to keep us out of that war. He promised.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3
The fact is the majority of the people in the military as a whole,
never went to Vietnam.
With your credentials, you should have been able to land a spot in
Germany. Then you could have used all of those language skills you
brag about to meet people you didn't have to shoot at.



To what end? You fellows seem to think that I missed something important
by not going into the military and having the opportunity to kill people
who meant my country no wrong.

I did spend nearly a year in Vietnam, up close and personal to the
action, but as a civilian. I saw a significant number of dead people of
both sides, and I often asked myself, "What the hell was this guy doing
here, fighting in a really stupid war and dying for nothing." And in
the end, that is all the guys on both sides died for...absolutely nothing.

Only the military contractors gained from that war. Oh, and of course,
the officer corps, because wars create billets and promotional
opportunities.




--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

I know every state has its offenses against humanity...
 

On 2/11/14, 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:10:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

Telling a lie over and over does not make it true.


Can't answer the question, eh?

You can't demonstrate that ANYONE EVER took a blanket from a homeless
person.


You still don't get it. As I posted earlier, just chalk it up as an
experiment on my part to see who had a black heart.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.