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On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? |
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On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... |
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On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) |
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On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? |
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On 2/6/2014 10:36 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? If you rely on a crutch to make your way around the house, it follows that you should take the crutch with you when you go out for a walk. Does that sound reasonable? |
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On 2/6/2014 11:18 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/6/2014 10:36 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:34 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 10:09 AM, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... It's perfectly OK with me that you disagree with your interpretation of what I said. ;-) Well, why not tell us what you were saying then.... Cause a reasonable person could believe you were leading to a discussion as to weather it's good to wear them at the range, if you won't have them otherwise, tell me where I'm wrong?? If you rely on a crutch to make your way around the house, it follows that you should take the crutch with you when you go out for a walk. Does that sound reasonable? Not really.... I wear glasses, I am sure I could shoot someone without them just fine though... |
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On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:09:31 -0500, KC wrote:
On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... I'd think honing your skills with the equipment you normally carry would be the appropriate thing to do. Like I said at the beginning, I don't want to have to tell those MS13 guys running rampant in my neighborhood, according to Harry, to wait while I hunt down my 'shooting glasses'. |
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On 2/6/14, 12:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:09:31 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/6/2014 9:57 AM, HanK wrote: On 2/6/2014 8:52 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/6/14, 8:46 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 23:05:48 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:58:37 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:23:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 11:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:24:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/5/14, 10:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote: ...is great! Took it to the range yesterday and put a hundred rounds through it. That gun is smooth as silk. Two law enforcement folks saw the gun and asked what it was. I let them shoot it, and they loved it also. I will admit right up front that these guys were much more accurate than I was! They were hitting the man-sized silhouette targets at 25 yards with no sweat. They got me thinking of taking a shooting class. They were hitting man-sized targets at 25 yards, and that makes them more accurate than you are? They should be able to put six shots in a pie tin sized area of that man-sized target at 25 yards, and that would only make them "OK" shots. Don't get into a gunfight. ![]() They demonstrated their abilities to out shoot me at the 7 yard range. I didn't try any shots at their targets. I can't see well enough to see where they were placing their rounds in the big targets. Oh, seven yards. Yeah, that's the typical cop range, and also the "self defense" range most of the instructors use. The 'tests' they were doing had them shooting at targets from about 2 yards (quick draw and fire) out to 25 yards. Probably more at 7 yards than anywhere else. You should be able to shoot offhanded and put six in a circle no larger than a navel orange at seven yards if you can see decently with your glasses. Rx shooting glasses might help, with one lens set for the distance from your eye to about a foot beyond the front sight, and the other set for distance. That is a problem. My computer/reading glasses are just right for the front sight, but the target is a blur. My distance/reading glasses are great for the target, but the sights are a blur. As for the navel orange...I'm thinking more a mandarin. And, I hate the idea of some MS13 guy breaking into my house and me having to say, "Just a minute, I have to find my Rx shooting glasses!" You sound like the perfect candidate for a laser At the range the other day someone had a laser on their gun. The target was at the 7 yard range, and all I could see was the red spot. It was dancing all over the target like the guy was playing with a cat. It was obvious he was trying to use it to aim, but he couldn't get it still enough. So, he shut it off. Of course most of the folks there were laughing under their breath. Anyway, I learned never to take a laser to the range. I'm not steady enough. I have a pair of "shooting glasses," as I described above. Call your opthalmologist, tell him you are bringing an unloaded pistol so he can fix you up with a pair. You'll be astonished at the difference it makes in your accuracy when you can see the rear and front sight *and* the target. Do you keep your shooting glasses on your night stand at night? Do you wear your shooting glasses when you carry? Why, you don't think honing your skills with the glasses would help you in a situation where you didn't have them? I totally disagree, we train for muscle memory and repetition of form. Lets put it this way, you train for form and ideal reaction in the gym with everything controlled, so when you are out there and are out of control or things are happening faster than you can consciously process them or the situation is not ideal, your instincts take over.... and you perform as close to perfect as your training is... In Johns case, (well maybe not John sounds like he needs a bit more range time ![]() burgler in the dark, without his glasses anyway... I'd think honing your skills with the equipment you normally carry would be the appropriate thing to do. Like I said at the beginning, I don't want to have to tell those MS13 guys running rampant in my neighborhood, according to Harry, to wait while I hunt down my 'shooting glasses'. A shotgun is much better for home defense than a pistol. |
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On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 12:15:01 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/6/14, 12:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 10:09:31 -0500, KC wrote: snipped I'd think honing your skills with the equipment you normally carry would be the appropriate thing to do. Like I said at the beginning, I don't want to have to tell those MS13 guys running rampant in my neighborhood, according to Harry, to wait while I hunt down my 'shooting glasses'. A shotgun is much better for home defense than a pistol. Messy. |
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