The chain will no longer sell tobacco products.


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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On 2/5/14, 11:29 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:00:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



They should do a study on how many of this country's 'poor' smoke cigarettes compared to the
'unpoor', whoever that is.

There's probably an excuse somewhere. Lack of money, according to some, causes obesity because poor
people 'can't afford to eat decently'. I suppose one would say that lack of money causes people to
spend $10 a pack for cigarettes because they can't afford psychiatrists to help control their
anxiety.


A tad judgmental, eh?


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There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol.

On 2/5/2014 1:16 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:25:10 -0500, KC wrote:

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the
yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going
all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and
raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not
be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a
report in the fall...

I am waiting to see how that works for you. My ex's family all had a
tobacco quota (Anne Arundle County) and grew whatever they were
allowed to sell but it was very labor intensive according to them.,
The raccoons won't eat your tobacco but there are plenty of bugs and
worms that will. You have to manually deal with that because you don't
want to smoke poison.
There is also a drying process that impacts how good your smoke is.
I am not sure if any of those people are still alive but it would be
an interesting conversation if I could hook you up.
After a while my eyes glazed over but I am not a farmer.


Yeah, it looks like the hardest part might be the bugs and the rotting
(curing) of the finished product. Then you have to process the leaves
and grind them... There are lots of tricks out there but the cut is very
important to the roll and burn.

On 2/5/2014 1:16 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:25:10 -0500, KC wrote:

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the
yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going
all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and
raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not
be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a
report in the fall...

I am waiting to see how that works for you. My ex's family all had a
tobacco quota (Anne Arundle County) and grew whatever they were
allowed to sell but it was very labor intensive according to them.,
The raccoons won't eat your tobacco but there are plenty of bugs and
worms that will. You have to manually deal with that because you don't
want to smoke poison.
There is also a drying process that impacts how good your smoke is.
I am not sure if any of those people are still alive but it would be
an interesting conversation if I could hook you up.
After a while my eyes glazed over but I am not a farmer.


You are right about the bugs though, I hadn't thought of that... Can't
poison them that's for sure..

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:51:35 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:11:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I hope your fall report says a doctor turned her on to Zyban and Nicorettes and she doesn't smoke
any more - anything!

Nicotine gun is a scourge itself. I know plenty of people hooked on
the gum.
My wife goes through about one of these every few months.
http://www.discountgum.com/Products/...-36-packs.aspx

It took me about a year to get off the gum. I gradually started chewing another. But I'm now
addicted to chewing something. The Orbit orange stuff was most like the Nicorettes. And a hell of a
lot cheaper.

On 2/5/2014 8:55 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:24:45 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/5/2014 1:16 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:25:10 -0500, KC wrote:

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the
yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going
all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and
raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not
be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a
report in the fall...

I am waiting to see how that works for you. My ex's family all had a
tobacco quota (Anne Arundle County) and grew whatever they were
allowed to sell but it was very labor intensive according to them.,
The raccoons won't eat your tobacco but there are plenty of bugs and
worms that will. You have to manually deal with that because you don't
want to smoke poison.
There is also a drying process that impacts how good your smoke is.
I am not sure if any of those people are still alive but it would be
an interesting conversation if I could hook you up.
After a while my eyes glazed over but I am not a farmer.


Yeah, it looks like the hardest part might be the bugs and the rotting
(curing) of the finished product. Then you have to process the leaves
and grind them... There are lots of tricks out there but the cut is very
important to the roll and burn.

That is a big part of the trick. You need to air dry this without it
rotting or growing mold on it.
There are big barns (not red) all over southern Maryland that are only
there to dry tobacco,
The trick is you spear it and hang it upside down in a well ventilated
but very dry place.


Yeah, I am familiar with the process, my whole town was nothing but
tobacco when I was a kid worked it at age 14... Gotta dry it slow and
warm in the beginning, got to make it rot out the sugars and harsh
oils... Really rotting it to an extent, or letting it get close. That's
why those red barns have the slats on the side so they can control the
humidity during the cure. If you dry it too fast, it will taste
harsh.... etc...

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:51:35 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:11:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I hope your fall report says a doctor turned her on to Zyban and
Nicorettes and she doesn't smoke
any more - anything!

Nicotine gun is a scourge itself. I know plenty of people hooked on
the gum.
My wife goes through about one of these every few months.
http://www.discountgum.com/Products/...-36-packs.aspx

It took me about a year to get off the gum. I gradually started chewing
another. But I'm now
addicted to chewing something. The Orbit orange stuff was most like the
Nicorettes. And a hell of a
lot cheaper.

Still enough smokers out there. I bought $60k of Phillip Morris in about
2002. Paid 5.4% dividend then. Dividend is now about 4.5% depending on
the division. But the stock has tripled in value. Not a bad investment.
Oand if the government could stop smoking, the price would drop on the
stock.

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 21:41:52 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:51:35 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:11:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I hope your fall report says a doctor turned her on to Zyban and
Nicorettes and she doesn't smoke
any more - anything!

Nicotine gun is a scourge itself. I know plenty of people hooked on
the gum.
My wife goes through about one of these every few months.
http://www.discountgum.com/Products/...-36-packs.aspx

It took me about a year to get off the gum. I gradually started chewing
another. But I'm now
addicted to chewing something. The Orbit orange stuff was most like the
Nicorettes. And a hell of a
lot cheaper.

Still enough smokers out there. I bought $60k of Phillip Morris in about
2002. Paid 5.4% dividend then. Dividend is now about 4.5% depending on
the division. But the stock has tripled in value. Not a bad investment.
Oand if the government could stop smoking, the price would drop on the
stock.

Smoking is very popular overseas. I think that's where the cigarette guys are making the big bucks.
In Germany, Marlboro was king.

On 2/6/2014 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 21:41:52 -0600, Califbill wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:51:35 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:11:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I hope your fall report says a doctor turned her on to Zyban and
Nicorettes and she doesn't smoke
any more - anything!

Nicotine gun is a scourge itself. I know plenty of people hooked on
the gum.
My wife goes through about one of these every few months.
http://www.discountgum.com/Products/...-36-packs.aspx

It took me about a year to get off the gum. I gradually started chewing
another. But I'm now
addicted to chewing something. The Orbit orange stuff was most like the
Nicorettes. And a hell of a
lot cheaper.

Still enough smokers out there. I bought $60k of Phillip Morris in about
2002. Paid 5.4% dividend then. Dividend is now about 4.5% depending on
the division. But the stock has tripled in value. Not a bad investment.
Oand if the government could stop smoking, the price would drop on the
stock.

Smoking is very popular overseas. I think that's where the cigarette guys are making the big bucks.
In Germany, Marlboro was king.


And China.

On 2/6/14, 1:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/6/2014 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 21:41:52 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:51:35 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:11:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I hope your fall report says a doctor turned her on to Zyban and
Nicorettes and she doesn't smoke
any more - anything!

Nicotine gun is a scourge itself. I know plenty of people hooked on
the gum.
My wife goes through about one of these every few months.
http://www.discountgum.com/Products/...-36-packs.aspx


It took me about a year to get off the gum. I gradually started chewing
another. But I'm now
addicted to chewing something. The Orbit orange stuff was most like the
Nicorettes. And a hell of a
lot cheaper.

Still enough smokers out there. I bought $60k of Phillip Morris in
about
2002. Paid 5.4% dividend then. Dividend is now about 4.5% depending on
the division. But the stock has tripled in value. Not a bad
investment.
Oand if the government could stop smoking, the price would drop on the
stock.

Smoking is very popular overseas. I think that's where the cigarette
guys are making the big bucks.
In Germany, Marlboro was king.


And China.



There have been many news articles pointing out that American tobacco
corporations are concentrating their marketing activities on young
people in third world countries.