On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:27:40 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I wonder if $10.00 a pack would kill off

cigarette sales entirely.


i doubt it. addicts will still find their fix. And if made $20.00 a pack it'd make no difference.

Heroine is totally illegal and look at what happened to Hoffman.

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On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 13:19:13 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/6/2014 8:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


Smoking is very popular overseas. I think that's where the cigarette
guys are making the big bucks.
In Germany, Marlboro was king.


And China.


In retrospect I always believed we fought in Vietnam to make the
country safe for Budweiser and Marlboro. It is a shame we didn't tell
the guys getting killed that at the time.
Hell I tried to go twice myself when I thought it was for freedom and
democracy. Wiser heads prevailed and both of my requests were denied.

I tried to go once, just for money at IBM and that was denied too.

I turned down an NCR trip to VN. They wanted to only boost pay 50% and
little expense money. Friend took the job, and they had to raise expense
money as was not enough to rent a place. Do not remember his name, only
met him a couple times, but one of the guys in my reserve unit was an IBM
in country rep. E3 here, but a major for privileges in VN.

On 2/6/2014 6:34 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:25:10 AM UTC-5, KC wrote:

My wife saves about half rolling her own but they doubled the tax on

that in the last 5 years so instead of $2.50 a pack, it's now almost 5.

She smokes a lot less now that she uses the ecig, but still it's a lot.

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the

yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going

all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and

raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not

be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a

report in the fall...

I don't know about Americas Laws on it... but you sure as hell CANT grow it up here without a License.


As I gather so far, you can grow a bit for personal use, and even apply
for a permit to grow some to sell yourself.. It would of course have to
be taxed etc I would imagine. We just want to grow some for ourselves...

On 2/6/2014 7:17 PM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:27:40 AM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I wonder if $10.00 a pack would kill off

cigarette sales entirely.


i doubt it. addicts will still find their fix. And if made $20.00 a pack it'd make no difference.

Heroine is totally illegal and look at what happened to Hoffman.


Broke my heart the other day to run into another old friend who is on
Oxycontin, and hooked good by the looks of things. He is a cop...

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On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:49:41 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/6/2014 6:34 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:25:10 AM UTC-5, KC wrote:

My wife saves about half rolling her own but they doubled the tax on

that in the last 5 years so instead of $2.50 a pack, it's now almost 5.

She smokes a lot less now that she uses the ecig, but still it's a lot.

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the

yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going

all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and

raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not

be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a

report in the fall...

I don't know about Americas Laws on it... but you sure as hell CANT
grow it up here without a License.


As I gather so far, you can grow a bit for personal use, and even apply
for a permit to grow some to sell yourself.. It would of course have to
be taxed etc I would imagine. We just want to grow some for ourselves...

I have been away from that for 3 decades but I think they dropped all
of that quota stuff that used to be a virtual license for selling it.
I think you could always grow all you wanted but you were locked out
of the auction for anything that wasn't in your quota.
That was some family's most valuable asset, passed down from
generation to generation and you saw little patches of tobacco behind
every old farm house all over southern Md..

Harry is around there now, maybe he knows what happened to the old
quota system.

I understand some florist in NYC was one of the biggest tobacco money
makers. His family had a huge amount of allotments and he inherited and
rented them out.

On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:05:26 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 20:49:41 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/6/2014 6:34 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:25:10 AM UTC-5, KC wrote:

My wife saves about half rolling her own but they doubled the tax on

that in the last 5 years so instead of $2.50 a pack, it's now almost 5.

She smokes a lot less now that she uses the ecig, but still it's a lot.

We are ordering a kit with 250 seeds, seems if we set a place in the

yard aside we could probably grow enough on ten plants to keep her going

all year... Haven't had a garden in a long time since the deer and

raccoons killed our last one a day before harvest. Seems they might not

be so interested in eating Tobacco so we'll see. Maybe I will have a

report in the fall...

I don't know about Americas Laws on it... but you sure as hell CANT grow it up here without a License.


As I gather so far, you can grow a bit for personal use, and even apply
for a permit to grow some to sell yourself.. It would of course have to
be taxed etc I would imagine. We just want to grow some for ourselves...

I have been away from that for 3 decades but I think they dropped all
of that quota stuff that used to be a virtual license for selling it.
I think you could always grow all you wanted but you were locked out
of the auction for anything that wasn't in your quota.
That was some family's most valuable asset, passed down from
generation to generation and you saw little patches of tobacco behind
every old farm house all over southern Md..

Harry is around there now, maybe he knows what happened to the old
quota system.

Wonder if the red barn was a tobacco barn?

On 2/7/2014 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 08:13:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 02:05:26 -0500, wrote:


I have been away from that for 3 decades but I think they dropped all
of that quota stuff that used to be a virtual license for selling it.
I think you could always grow all you wanted but you were locked out
of the auction for anything that wasn't in your quota.
That was some family's most valuable asset, passed down from
generation to generation and you saw little patches of tobacco behind
every old farm house all over southern Md..

Harry is around there now, maybe he knows what happened to the old
quota system.

Wonder if the red barn was a tobacco barn?

Every one I ever saw was unpainted but I think they tore all of them
down to sell the lumber. In the 70s and 80s yuppies (and their foo foo
interior designers) were paying enough for authentic heartwood "barn
boards" that you could afford to tear it down and build a new barn.
Unfortunately the wood these days is not as good and you might have to
paint it.


Yup, it was a huge business here for a while... I grew up playing in
those barns... Living life on the beams, 5 stories up where principals
and truant officers couldn't even see you with a flashlight