On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 10:49:16 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/5/2014 9:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:46:54 -0500, KC wrote:

On 2/5/2014 1:15 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:20:57 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I've had companies want a fax of my military ID card. They wouldn't take a jpg. So I had to trudge
down to UPS to get the fax sent. Only $1, but a pain in the butt. An excuse for a motorcycle ride
though.

You can fax from your computer if it still has a modem in it. I
haven't seen a built in modem that did not have fax capabilities since
the 486 days.
The problem is POTS modems are starting to disappear in newer
machines.
XP has fax support in the basic load but it is a bit clunky to use.

I still have a W98 machine on my scanner that can fax.



We just have a Fax Machine...

The new printer I got for Christmas does printing, copying, scanning and faxing. I should be in good
shape. All we ever do is black and white. If we need a photo or color, we send it to Costco. There
it's done in an hour or so. Haven't tried the WalMart service yet, but will give it a shot as it's
much closer, and I can pick up some ammo if I need it !!


Just a note.. Last year we tried Amazon for ink for our Brother
Scanner/Printer/Copy/Fax/fix you a sandwich... printer. We paid 16
dollars for 20 cartridge, yup, less than a dollar a cartridge. We print
a lot and have almost used all of them, ready for another order. Not one
problem, not one issue with any of them or the printer so far.. Just
noting it for you all... Just sayin'...


I believe you. My old HP DeskJet 895 Cxi just keeps on chuggin'. Now Costco will reload the
cartridge while you wait for about $7. I didn't see that sign until after I put the new printer on
my wish list. But, I like the extra capabilities of the Samsung.

On 2/5/2014 12:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:51:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january

Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to
switch.
If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change
your hardware and software?
99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on
a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,
you don't need that much computing power.
All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average
business man's operation.
Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why
they need a different OS.

Most applications are now moving into the Cloud/Web, there is no real need for lots of horse
power on the average business users system. Also, the cost of developing a web/cloud based
application is that it is immediately executabe on any OS that supports the browser.

Fat PC's are dead.

Yet the PCs are getting bigger every release of the OS.

The cloud is great as long as security and availability are not
important to you.



For $179 you can buy your own "cloud" with 3Tb of storage.

http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-3TB-Personal-Storage-WDBCTL0030HWT-NESN/dp/B00EVVGAC6

On 2/5/2014 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:07:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

I believe you. My old HP DeskJet 895 Cxi just keeps on chuggin'. Now Costco will reload the
cartridge while you wait for about $7. I didn't see that sign until after I put the new printer on
my wish list. But, I like the extra capabilities of the Samsung.

The operative word is "old". The new ones use a cartridge with a chip
that keeps you from refilling them. If the chip says it is empty,
putting more ink in it will not get it to say full again.
Ink jets are a scam. They give away the printer and make their money
on the ink. Like everything else, 3d parties are trying to take a bite
out of that model tho.

I just prefer a laser. The prints are water proof, you can make
"foils" and they end up cheaper in the long run if you print a lot.


I dunno... Like I said, we pay about 66 cents a cartridge but it's not
available for my Lexmark so not for all jet printers. Thankfully it is
for our Office "Brother"...

On 2/5/2014 1:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/5/2014 12:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:51:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to
switch.
If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change
your hardware and software?
99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on
a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,
you don't need that much computing power.
All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average
business man's operation.
Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why
they need a different OS.

Most applications are now moving into the Cloud/Web, there is no real
need for lots of horse
power on the average business users system. Also, the cost of
developing a web/cloud based
application is that it is immediately executabe on any OS that
supports the browser.

Fat PC's are dead.

Yet the PCs are getting bigger every release of the OS.

The cloud is great as long as security and availability are not
important to you.



For $179 you can buy your own "cloud" with 3Tb of storage.

http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-3TB-Personal-Storage-WDBCTL0030HWT-NESN/dp/B00EVVGAC6


Yeah, we are looking at that..

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:51:17 -0500, BAR wrote:


Fat PC's are dead.

Yet the PCs are getting bigger every release of the OS.

The cloud is great as long as security and availability are not
important to you.

Fat PC's might be getting more scarce because components are smaller and
don't need cooling.
My 4 year old case is about 4 times larger than the typical PC.
Massive, but space in no concern, and components are ridiculously
easy to swap.
Thing is, except for graphics cards and an SSD, I haven't had to open
the case.
The cloud won't replace the desk top and on-site processing.

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:35:27 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:54:10 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 01:15:15 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:20:57 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I've had companies want a fax of my military ID card. They wouldn't take a jpg. So I had to trudge
down to UPS to get the fax sent. Only $1, but a pain in the butt. An excuse for a motorcycle ride
though.

You can fax from your computer if it still has a modem in it. I
haven't seen a built in modem that did not have fax capabilities since
the 486 days.
The problem is POTS modems are starting to disappear in newer
machines.
XP has fax support in the basic load but it is a bit clunky to use.

I still have a W98 machine on my scanner that can fax.


I suppose I'd have to have a scanner though. I don't. My wife has a little portable she uses for her
scrapbooking, but I don't think my ID card would fold enough to get through the thing.

You did say "jpg" so I assumed you had a jpg of your card. A digital
camera will work for that.

Yeah. Instead of faxes, I take a photo and attach the jpg to an email. Most places will accept that.
Some want a fax through their fax machine. Don't know why. I could always take the photo, print it
in black and white, and then fax the print. They don't seem to understand that.

I've taken a photo of the front and back, put them on a Word document, and attach it as necessary.
Works for getting a retired discount on a gun. Of course, I had to show the original to the FFL guy.

KC wrote:
On 2/5/2014 1:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/5/2014 12:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:51:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 10:04:24 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

Maybe I'll stick with XP even after the support stops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...are-in-january


Microsoft has not given their business users any compelling reason to
switch.
If your mission is not significantly changing, why should you change
your hardware and software?
99% of all real business applications ran just fine on Windows 3.1 on
a 396. If you are just doing bookkeeping, inventory and point of sale,
you don't need that much computing power.
All of these flashy graphics do not actually add much to the average
business man's operation.
Hardware is pretty stagnant these days so I am not really sure why
they need a different OS.

Most applications are now moving into the Cloud/Web, there is no real
need for lots of horse
power on the average business users system. Also, the cost of
developing a web/cloud based
application is that it is immediately executabe on any OS that
supports the browser.

Fat PC's are dead.

Yet the PCs are getting bigger every release of the OS.

The cloud is great as long as security and availability are not
important to you.



For $179 you can buy your own "cloud" with 3Tb of storage.

http://www.amazon.com/Cloud-3TB-Personal-Storage-WDBCTL0030HWT-NESN/dp/B00EVVGAC6


Yeah, we are looking at that..

Any 3tb storage I am going to want a raid or at least a mirror drive setup.

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:58:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

The new printer I got for Christmas does printing, copying, scanning and
faxing. I should be in good
shape. All we ever do is black and white. If we need a photo or color,
we send it to Costco. There
it's done in an hour or so. Haven't tried the WalMart service yet, but
will give it a shot as it's
much closer, and I can pick up some ammo if I need it !!

I do mine at CVS but there are lots of places that will sell you Kodak
prints for 29 cents or less a shot. I use the cheaper "one hour"
service but I drop them off on the way to the grocery store (in the
same parking lot) and they are always done by the time I get my
groceries.

It was not even worth keeping a color printer fed and buying photo
paper for that price. I gave mine away when the ink ran out.

I send the pictures to costco on line and we pick up whenever we get there.
I think the only color printing I do now is for pictures on the back of
the Christmas letter. Normally have to buy new ink cartridge after a year.
Everything else I print in grey tones. Lad lots of that is fast draft
mode.

wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:07:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/5/2014 8:54 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 01:15:15 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 13:20:57 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I've had companies want a fax of my military ID card. They wouldn't
take a jpg. So I had to trudge
down to UPS to get the fax sent. Only $1, but a pain in the butt. An
excuse for a motorcycle ride
though.

You can fax from your computer if it still has a modem in it. I
haven't seen a built in modem that did not have fax capabilities since
the 486 days.
The problem is POTS modems are starting to disappear in newer
machines.
XP has fax support in the basic load but it is a bit clunky to use.

I still have a W98 machine on my scanner that can fax.


I suppose I'd have to have a scanner though. I don't. My wife has a
little portable she uses for her
scrapbooking, but I don't think my ID card would fold enough to get through the thing.



I bought an inexpensive scanner a year ago. It's an Epson V330 and was
$99. I choose it because in addition to doing up to 8.5" x 11" photos
or documents, it also will do film negatives and 35mm slides. My
sister and I were putting together an album of digital images taken from
the slides that my parents had, dating back to the 1950's.

It does a pretty decent job.


I am still getting along OK with my old HP SCSI scanner. If it craps
out, I still have another one. ;-)
I did get rid of my sheet scanner when I stopped all of that faxing to
the state.

I have an all in one HP. Expensive ink. Rarely fax anymore, but scan in
and email the scan. Very handy, for a lot of small scan jobs.

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 12:49:49 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 09:58:40 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

The new printer I got for Christmas does printing, copying, scanning and faxing. I should be in good
shape. All we ever do is black and white. If we need a photo or color, we send it to Costco. There
it's done in an hour or so. Haven't tried the WalMart service yet, but will give it a shot as it's
much closer, and I can pick up some ammo if I need it !!

I do mine at CVS but there are lots of places that will sell you Kodak
prints for 29 cents or less a shot. I use the cheaper "one hour"
service but I drop them off on the way to the grocery store (in the
same parking lot) and they are always done by the time I get my
groceries.

It was not even worth keeping a color printer fed and buying photo
paper for that price. I gave mine away when the ink ran out.

I've not bought a color cartridge in several years. Costco does a much better job at photo printing
than I could do at home, and it's a lot cheaper at 13 cents for a 4x6, and a tad over $1 for an
8x10.