On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.

On 1/27/2014 12:09 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.


Yeah, I should have known better. Snake oil stuff. I still have the
OEM filter in the back seat. I'll put it back on or get a new one.

In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.

I have a 3.15 with "Posi"


Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003)
the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up
in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and
the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line
and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They
still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are
totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and,
as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty
series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that
operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their
heavier duty trucks.

I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be
hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came
with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all
the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll
probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride.

That all said though, I still like the truck.

The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive.
The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups
are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge.