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On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. |
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. |
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On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. |
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On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks? -- There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. |
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On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks? I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them. Lots of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a "small" pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full sized, but come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series. Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation. I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical. |
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On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:08:41 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. I have to agree, at least about the soft ride. My wife's car is a LS460, and while it's comfortable, I don't like driving it. I think the vette's ride and feel is much more comfortable. Unless the road is really rough, the ride is actually pretty nice... for a performance car. In comparison, the Boxster I used to have was a great car, but the ride was a bit choppy. I'd love to have an Audi S6. I had an A6 Quattro and loved it. The S6 is too much coin new, and it's hard to find a good used one. |
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:08:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. 'Too soft'? Nah, I like it. It is much softer than my wife's Jetta, and I can live with the softness. Once there's a nice load on the back, I think it gets a tad softer. I can live with soft. Gettin' too old for the bumpy stuff. I think the Dodges are twice as bumpy as the Fords. |
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:12:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks? Nope. My diesel (6.6L) is just the right size. Plus, I'd never own a Dodge anything. I have ridden in a Dodge pickup, and its ride is atrocious. |
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:32:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 1/29/2014 9:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 1/29/14, 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/29/2014 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:20:30 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 1/28/2014 5:30 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down. Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go? My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter. If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big difference is the transmission. I have a 3.15 with "Posi" Up until the 10th generation of Ford's "F" series trucks (1997-2003) the F-250 and F-350 series were based on the F-150 design but beefed up in terms of payload, etc. At that point the F-150 was redesigned and the F-250 and F-350 "Super Duty" series became a separate product line and differ considerably with the more current models of the F-150. They still share some common components, such as engines but otherwise are totally different trucks. Your F-150 rides better, handles better and, as previously noted, has more "pep" in normal driving. The Super Duty series are much harder riding and have a "TorqueShift" transmission that operates similar to the Allison transmission that GM uses in their heavier duty trucks. I bought the Super Duty because there was a potential that I'd be hauling some heavy trailers again, but that never happened. It came with a plow package prep, so I bought a plow for it. That's about all the "Super Duty" it has done. If we end up heading south, I'll probably trade it in and get a F-150 just for a more decent ride. That all said though, I still like the truck. The Silverado 2500 HD rides like a big, big Cadillac. Very comfortable, even with the 4-wheel drive. The 1500 I had before this one was the same. Friends couldn't get over how comfortable these pickups are. I tell them to try going around the block in a Dodge. I test drove a Silverado 2500 before I bought the F-250. Very nice truck but *too* soft for my liking. I also tried a friend's diesel Silverado that is more of a work truck. Went like a raped ape but again, it was too "soft" feeling to me. I had just come from a Ford F-350 diesel (Harley Edition) that was just as plush inside as the Silverado but still felt and rode like a heavy duty pickup. At the time, that's what I was looking for. It's too bad I had the problems with the 6.0L diesel that Ford used at the time, otherwise I would still have that truck. I discovered something during the long trips I made back and forth to Florida. I was actually more comfortable and found it was less tiring driving a stiffer feeling truck than a super soft ride and that includes making the trip in the BMW 750 that I had for a while. I like trucks. Speaking of diesels, have you read or heard anything about the new smaller diesel in the smaller Dodge trucks? I had not but just looked at the Dodge website and read about them. Lots of torque for a smaller diesel. BTW .. Dodge no longer makes a "small" pickup like the Dakota they used to have. They are all full sized, but come in the traditional, 1500, 2500, 3500 series. Diesels are great engines IMO but I became a little concerned when the government mandated scrubbers on them. It's really a freakin' furnace that operates from time to time to burn off crap that is collected in the exhaust. When it first was employed, there were reports of trucks causing grass fires when the thing automatically went into operation. I'll probably just hold onto my 2008 F-250 until we eventually move. At that time I won't need to plow 18 inches of snow and won't be hauling anything heavy so I'll trade it in for something more economical. I figure mine will last until I die. If you move down south, you need to keep that big pickup. Put a rifle in the back window - even if it's fake. |
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