On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

On 1/27/14, 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


The same brand, K&N.

On 1/27/2014 8:24 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/26/2014 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:28:28 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Harry's made a good effort to remain civil the past week or so.

===

And that is supposed to compensate for 15+ years of attrocious
behavior both on and off the internet?



Not to make excuses for Harry but I see him as somewhat of a literary
nerd. Being a bit of a nerd myself in other disciplines, I can relate
to being a nerd.

Harry is an asshole, not qualifiers, he is just an asshole.

He's opinionated (as we all are) and I can't agree with his all or
nothing approach to political party allegiances and commentary. That
said though, I find him to be knowledgeable, despite his often caustic
use of our language when addressing some people here. Some of it is
comical. At least you have to admit he has been consistent.

Harry is Google smart.

Unlike many I don't have any problems engaging in a discussion with him
or anyone else here. If anyone dislikes what I have to say, ignore me
or put me in your bozo bin. I couldn't care less.

He hasn't personally attacked you much.

I agree with this post...

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.

On 1/27/2014 12:09 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:19:26 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.


Yes. I've never used anything but ATF. Never used the K&N stuff and I've put over 200,000 miles on
my two Guzzis.

I didn't put K&Ns on the truck after reading a lot about air filters. The last one was this one:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

I've been using the AC Delco filter since.


Yeah, I should have known better. Snake oil stuff. I still have the
OEM filter in the back seat. I'll put it back on or get a new one.

In article , says...

On 1/27/2014 10:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:03:14 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/27/2014 9:53 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:05:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 1/26/14, 8:52 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2014 21:53:38 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2014 15:14:27 -0500, Hank wrote:

On 1/26/2014 1:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC-6, wrote:
Hey Krausebag, how's it going with you? I'm heading to New York next
week and was wondering if there were photos (possibly in the harbor
archives) of your father's fireboat welcome in New York Harbor? You
know, the one he received after crossing the Atlantic in a dingy. It
would be very rewarding to see the photos and historical account.
What was the date of his arrival?

Krausebag has fallen uncharacteristically mute. Odd, isn't it, how
Google Search has effectively ended Krausebag's pitiful, fabricated life.


He was here earlier today. Maybe he's out on his boat honing his nav skills.

===

Probably so now that he's recently discovered that he owns a boat and
actually has electronic navigation software for it. I can undertand
his reticence however, what with the Feds digging around looking for
property they can seize. What a pitiful life our hero leads.

You got proof of that, or are you just idly smearing?
You and "Hank" are sure interested in Krause.
Big mistake for Krause to take "Hank" out of the "Bozo Bin".
But Krause is sure coming out on top.
We'll see how long it lasts.

Wayne is binned and hank is on the cusp. They obviously prefer the way
rec.boats was.

Harry, you keep advertising your filters. Why is that?


You are neither in charge here nor the inquisitor, eh?

And, I'll admit to bragging about my filters too. They're K&N's that've been on the Guzzi for about
20 years now. Wash them every few months, add a little 'cherry juice' and they're good to go for
another year.

What kind of air filters do you use on that Ducati? ;)


Cherry juice? ATF? Some here will take it literally (YKWIM)

Yeah, ATF. It gets used on the filters and as a lubricant in the front forks.


Is Automatic Transmission Fluid the special K&N "oil" that you are
supposed to put on the filter after washing?

I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.

On 1/27/2014 7:23 PM, BAR wrote:

In article , says...


I had dual exhaust and a K&N filter installed on my F-250 with promises
of significantly higher fuel mileage. Truck sounds good but I haven't
noticed any improved mpg. In fact in the winter it goes down.

Did you notice more giddy-up-and-go?

My 5.4L in my F-150 gets 15 in the city during the summer and 13 in the city during the
winter when consuming oxygenated gas. The problem is that I burn the same amout of gas to go
the same distance with the added benefit of spewing MTBE type chemicals in the winter.


If there's more "giddy up" I really don't notice it. My F-250 has the
same engine as your F-150 but they have different transmissions and the
F-250 weighs a bit more. I've noticed that my son's F-150 with the 5.4L
always seemed to have more "giddy-up" than my truck. I think the big
difference is the transmission.